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Beehive: an update to defederating from sh.itjust.works (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by can@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

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[-] Xathonn@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago

Since lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works didn't have any restrictions on making accounts they were getting a lot of trolls coming from those 2 instances so they defederated from them until the moderation tools become more advanced.

[-] onceuponaban@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

Given that kbin (or at least kbin.social) generally doesn't have restrictions on making accounts either I would assume we're next, eventually.

[-] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] onceuponaban@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can understand the value of making your community a more tight-knit one with a proactive stance on moderation, that's how Tildes operate and they're doing fine. The thing is I'm not sure I understand why, given this goal, Beehaw is part of the Fediverse in the first place, where there isn't much preventing someone from an outside group coming in. This sounds like a case where a centralized instance makes more sense. Maybe they're trying to see if such a community can exist on the Fediverse, in which case fair enough, but this seems like an uphill road.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The community in Beehaw are all cool people, but their weird rules and heavy filtering puts me off.

Not surprising. From looking around it seem like they want to turn beehaw into a business they can profit off of in the long run.

https://beehaw.org/post/452132

in the very, very long term, we aspire to become a co-op or similar, as a part of fulfilling our ethos.

[-] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's the beautiful thing about federation though, is that as users we can choose not to subscribe and engage with communities that don't share our values.

[-] finder585@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That is ignoring that instance owners can decide for their users what instances they can and cannot engage with. Which is fine, it is their server they can manage it how they like. That is not the user deciding how to interact with other instances and communities.

I see the whole federation as a bit of a paradox. Users are allowed and encouraged to interact with other instances and communities as they please. However, if the instance a user belongs to decides to defederate from another instance. Users now have to create another account to keep interacting with that instance. Which kind of defeats the purpose of federation. Now users are forced to create an account for each instance they want to continue interacting with.

[-] RyanHakurei@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

It would not surprise me if Beehaw admins are some of the Reddit powermods just hedging their bets in case Reddit dies or they get banned.

[-] Otome-chan@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

This is what all us kbinauts were thinking and a few of us asked beehaw and their response was literally "who are you? we don't even think about you" lol. so I think we're probably fine.

[-] RyanHakurei@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Even if they do defederate us that's basically just the trash taking itself out.

[-] jeff@federated.fun 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@Otome-chan @onceuponaban @can @sbv @Xathonn i am glad they think they're important enough to feel superior when they make such a reply. shitty neighboors attract shitty neighboors.

welcome to fedi btw. you'll fit right in just fine umu