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ffs - first Proton, now this.
I've never liked the idea that I have to trust my VPN, and this news raises a pretty significant trust issue. Makes me think I've been approaching this from the wrong angle.
Anyone have experience with the TOR daemon?
I've been looking at TOR, I2P, Reticulim, Freenet, Snowflake, IPFS
Tor get's blocked a lot. It's the fastest of the options. The level of anonymization is ok. If you piss off a nation-state, it may not protect you sufficiently. It's had a history of leaks, If an intelligence ag owns enough of the exits, timing attacks might out you.
I2P is more secure, harder to block, but it's really slow and has very limited access to the clearnet. It's also super easy to DDOS. There are some torrents, forums and chatrooms out there on i2p, latency is rough.
Reticulum is pretty cool. It's a protocol and you access things like nomad net on it. It's crypto is good, there's no clearnet access. It may have issues when/if it scales
Snowflake is slow AF, mainly used to get anonymous access out from restricted nations-states.
IPFS web3 crypto storage. you can host files/sites on it. It's kinda hard to make stuff on there go away, it's also kinda hard to get stuff to stay. If you're not paying a pinning service, even daily scripting the pins to keep data up there is a losing battle. It's slow, fragile, not very anonymous.
This is way worse than what Yen did. This guy donated a lot of money to a party that explicitly pushes demigration policies, and if there was any doubt that this was a motivating factor for the donation, he later said he felt those policies were necessary. That's understandable to not want to give your money to someone who you know is going to go bankroll demigration politics with some of your money.
Yen praised the Republicans at large over an anti trust pick.
I think the other criticisms of Proton's policy changes are valid, and everyone has different standards for what is enough to divest from a company I guess, but I've heard people calling Yen a fascist sympathizer for that statement, and that's just divorced from reality imo.
The party is "pushing" for something that is already law. Re-migration, at least in a Swedish context, aims to let people VOLUNTARILY return to their home country but with the intensive to get some cash to start up their new lifes there.
Sources....
https://www.migrationsverket.se/du-har-tillstand-i-sverige/internationellt-skydd-asyl/atervandringsbidrag.html
https://www.regeringen.se/pressmeddelanden/2025/10/ett-kraftigt-hojt-atervandringsbidrag
I still wouldn't support it and would probably pull my money from someone who is actively promoting it. Often this kind of sentiment is a soft pedaled version of more ugly policies, and I just don't agree with it in the first place. I think nationalism is generally an ignorant position and the lesson of the 20th century should be that trying to maintain homogeneous states nearly always leads to genocide in the worst cases and apartheid states in the best of times. So this doesn't assuage me much.
That said, extra context is always welcome.
You are of course free to do what you want with your money! :)
Nationalism is about believing and wanting the concepts of nations/borders. And with that the analysis of the ethnicities within or outside those borders (by ethnicity I mean cultural not race), and that a nation should be a collection of people that work together to make that nation better. So blaming apartheid and genocide, is like blaming a hammer because it can be used to kill someone.
I’m out of the loop. What happened with proton?
Public statements of support from its CEO for a regime actively weaponizing technology to build a mass-surveillance state.
Removing its no logging policy after being compelled by court order to log and disclose a user’s IP and browser fingerprint.
Personally, I gave up on Proton after they amended their TOS to include a mandatory arbitration clause, including a ban on class action lawsuits. IMO only the dirtiest of corporations rely on mandatory arbitration clauses. Without the spectre of a class action lawsuit, if a VPN were to get caught breaking its promises to its users, the only real damage the company would likely suffer would be reputational. These are for-profit corporations. The only way we can hold them accountable is to put their profits at risk.
edit: looks like @oce beat me to it
I do wonder what could they have done in the email case? I don't think that there's any country where they could just let you not comply with a court order. And due to how email works they can't just encrypt the subject lines or the sender/receiver.
In that one case I lean more into pointing more fingers to the Swiss government, rather than to proton. They're still not blameless tho, maybe they could have used some sort of canary to let people know they were being surveilled, and be more clear on how to avoid these situations.
Don't log it, you can't be compelled to hand over data you don't have. They said outright that they didn't log it.
Run SMTP purely on IO sockets. Don't make files. You draft your email into your own cryptographically secure blob, When it's time to send it, you fire it through an SMTP daemon built to use memory only, once it's gone it's gone. If the govt wants that data, they can go to the ISP for it. Maybe it communicates securely with SMTP servers set up in countries that are actually good at observing privacy.
Good Guy security provider could also terminate your account or lose your password.
The thing is, they oversold their security. They're STILL overselling their security. The release rabid PR dogs / Trolls out there to discount/discredit people bitching about the situation.
https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/
Alternatives to proton
https://www.xda-developers.com/replaced-entire-proton-subscription-with-free-private-apps/
Thank you.
That is very disappointing. Time to find a good alternative
Yet another certified bruh moment