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Completely fair point.
Yup. The guy's not wrong.
Unless you consider the person speaking. Then your realize they behead people for not being their faith, women driving a cars, women not covering their entire bodies, a culture of men who just "can't help themselves" but sexually assault women.....we can go on for days.
I'm not saying Americas hands are clean, far from it. But this dip shit is acting like his are and he's on the right side of morality is a complete joke.
No women was beheaded for driving a car. It was the saudis who used to prohibit women from driving and beheading was not the punishement. Those beheafing non muslim is isis not Iran. Fuck off with your islamophobia.
A woman singer Parastoo Ahmadi was just sentenced to 74 lashes for singing without hijab.
You guys act like this is a game and I'm so tired of it. I'm a woman. A woman is going to be publicly brutalized for singing in public without religious garb. It's incredibly messed up that you guys can do whatever you want and hide behind Islamophobia.
Do you actually think that womens' rights in Iran are upheld as they should be?
The user said women get beheaded for driving a car in Iran which was false. It conflated saudi arabia with isis with iran which is islamophobic. Talking about women how many women was killed and raped with the west support in palestine, sudan ,libya etc?
The difference between you and me is that I'm talking about the oppression of women because I care and because it matters, and you are using it as a political talking point.
Israel kill women daily with the west support. You are a hypocrite with selective outrage . I never said it is ok to punish people for not respecting an extreme view of a religion, i simply reject spreaing lies like women getting killed for driving in Iran
Erm arent both Saudi Arabia and isis Muslim/Islam? How is that Islam phobic?
Aren't israelis jews. Does every jew because a colonizer stealing land and opressing palestinians? If i believed that i would be antisemetic because i generalized jews. Doing the same to muslim is islamophobic
What are you referring to? Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians have official representation in the state.
I haven't heard of this practice in Iran, even less of the government forcing it on women, and clearly not beheading them for it.
They do detain, torture, and kill women who do not cover their hair completely and dress "modestly." This is well-established fact.
I remember reading that women in Iran could get away with wearing the veil in a way that partly reveal their hair. I don't know if this has changed with the recent events. All the stories of persecution I've read seemed to be about women who had their hair completely free.
But in any case, this is beyond the point I've made. Even if women in Iran have to completly cover their hair, it's not a full body cover like we see in Afghanistan.
They are a horrendous society and government, but a clock with dead batteries is still right twice a day.
The horrendous society is the US who elects rapists, and thrives on sucking other countries blood by using wars, extortion and sanctions.
Iran is a developing country, it has its problems but at least it's not evil because fuck yeah, unlike the western countries especially the US.
Genocide, child mass murder, pedophilia, rape - all de facto legal if done by the "right" people.
This is both the US and Israel.
I don't think you have a clue what goes on in Iran if you think their regime isn't evil
Are they more evil than a genocidal fascist pedophile oligarchy?
If those are the things you're worried about then yes, you'll be pleasantly surprised to see Iran manage to one-up the US on all of these points
Show us your work, then, lmao.
You wont even talk about them, they are just "those things you’re worried about". Like massive genocide and rape is just a little issue. You're a real piece of.. work.
Yeah here's a little insight on how the Iranian regime thinks about child rape
https://wikiislam.net/index.php?title=Thighing
And you just marry them in the states
Also what a fucking joke of a source, lmao. Are you a 12 year old who just figured out about atheism?
Look up the Epstein files and get back to us. Your president was mentioned over a million times while his justice department only released 50% of the files.
Yeah if you think Khomeini himself is "a joke of a source" it just seems like you want to brush this whole thing off rather easily
I'm sure it's comforting for all those girls raped under his blessing that you feel their rapes are eclipsed by Epstein and Trump
No I was talking about that hilarious website. Child marriage is allowed in 33 states in your country, and your leaders are global pedophile child sex traffickers. Now your country is bombing the other country in order to further the genocidal agenda of Israel.
Yes, they support terrorists like hamas and hezbollah, who launch their rockets from civil areas so they then receive bombs there, and innocent civilians die to be martyred for their stupid causes.
Lmao Hezbollah and Hamas are both resistance groups to Israel's literal genocide supplied by American weapons, money, and political cover. You're a real sick removed if you think that supporting these groups is more evil than a LITERAL genocidal fascist pedophile oligarchy.
Get some help.
you dont even know what the "stupid" causes are do you.
I dont think you have a clue back at you. Epstein's industrial scale pedophilia with the elite, none of our leaders representing us at all, and open sponsoring of genocide by both political parties with US taxpayer dollars are all horrifically evil.
Yeah come back to me when the US start murdering all internal opposition, torturing their leaders for years until they spontaneously confess their crimes against god on tv, openly encourages child rape, ...
There's a lot to be said about the US but like I said elsewhere: if you're worried about the things you're calling out then the Iranian regime is like the twice-evolved version of that shit
I guess its fair to say we should not measure ourselves by comparison-- we should measure ourselves against a standard of human dignity and some minimal baseline of human rights for all. And from there we'd have the standing to criticize others. Right now we (the US) doesnt have that so we should act with more humility until we do.
What do you mean start? They already finished that, now you think democrats and republicans are opposed to each other. Fred Hampton, Kent state, MOVE, McCarthyism, Blair Mountain - the US already killed it's internal opposition, and now has the leadership that results from that.
I'm actually an Iranian you dimwit.
Lol
Yeah if you're in line with the regime, I'm sure it all sounds fantastic
I don't care about your opinion, neither does my nation, whether I'm in line with the regime or not, also does not concern you, nor has any relevance to what I say. The US is the most evil imperialist force of all time, I've seen their bombs hit my city. We will never forget.
If it does not have any relevance to what you say, why did you feel the need to point it out?
Bruh what. You tried to frame the whole thing as a gotcha "you in line with the regime", I said it doesn't concern you as an outsider, whether I'm pro regime or anti regime, because fuck imperialism.
Yeah 'bruh'. If you honestly believe the Iranian regime should be excused for their all crimes because "they're a developing country", you don't think that's relevant?
If you were born in the US with that mindset you'd probably be right there in that cockpit throwing those bombs on 'the outsiders'.
And you obviously only “know” what western media tells you.
On the contrary. The Iranian regime is quite open on their evil shit tbh. They believe it's their ticket to Heaven
To judge an entire society as "horrendous" just isn't acceptable. That is where the liberals intersect with the fascists. It's a society, people are born, grow up, live, learn, love, play, fall in love, grow, marry, make babies and raise them, grow old. 92 Million people. Their society has problems.
Who are you to judge them as horrendous? Who are you to aid and give cause to genocidal invaders to destroy their country, their livelihoods, their progress? To bomb them back in time? They were making progress in many areas.
It's not just Trump who is responsible, it's everyone who is pushing these overly broad talking points.
Do you think meddling and interfering through NGOs has positive effects on their "freedoms"? Or negative effects? Just leave them alone, they can sort it out themselves.
All of this is imperialism because there are many countries like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan who is a geopolitical allies. We all need to demand less interference in other countries from our own governments and our allies.
Sure although the Israelis are significantly worse. Israel is actively wiping out entire ethnicities based on racist supremacy, lies, rape and murder, to steal land. Israel also threatens unrelated countries with their "samson option" nuclear doctrine. Iran doesnt even come close to that level of evil. Not even in the same league.
The irony is not lost on me, but he's still not wrong.