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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago

I agree but I wish people would act this way towards western modesty laws as well.

[-] Janx@piefed.social 34 points 1 month ago

We're not great, but we don't publicly torture women for not covering their heads...

I'm not going to defend their bs, but let's not pretend that puritanical views on female (reproductive and otherwise) morality aren't killing people in places like the US.

We kill women for having a uterus, not for appearance. Look at the supreme Court's garbage triggering abortion laws across the country. There is a death toll.

We aren't exactly doing great in the west.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

My BS? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Western governments need to be shamed too.

[-] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

I believe the “their” there was referring to Iran’s BS, not yours

It is because that is the behavior being questioned, and it was trying to make it clear that I had no interest in glorifying it in any way.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Oh. Well that's a weird thing to say because I don't think anyone is defending them but OK.

That is exactly what I was doing.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah I agree. Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying though, I'm still unsure.

It's cool. Happens to me late at night.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Which people? Pretty sure you'd find lots of people doing just that, mostly those who are criticizing policies like the one in the article as well.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

In my experience many of the most strident critics of hair coverings refuse to see the similarity to anti-nudity laws, especially nipple covering which is specific to women.

I mean I think the downvotes speak to the fact that the average person is not willing to admit the harms that our own ideas of modesty cause.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Or they think you're using whataboutism to make it about an issue your personally care about instead of the still very real issue conveyed in the article.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can kind of see that criticism but I think talking about our own issues and hypocrisy here has relevance here. We do very similar things in our countries and there's very little fuss about it.

And I did acknowledge that I agree Iranian morality policing should be condemned, so it's not like I'm trying to defend them, just talk about a related issue.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Then maybe don't make your statements "Yes... but", make them "Yes, and". It makes it less about how you think people should be worried about your issues and simply brings up a related issue as well.

And, again, it's not like people don't care. Just like it's not that people don't care about the climate crisis, economic inequality, or health care... it's just people only have so much energy to give. And the current systems we live in do not provide room for an overabundance of sharing it.

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