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Israeli minister Ben Gvir calls for abducting Lebanese 'women and youth' to pressure Hezbollah
(www.middleeasteye.net)
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The same thing kinda happened in Hong Kong, where I'm actually from. From the government's perspective, the protests and demands for democracy never ended, so they decided the only way to crush them was by force, hence the crackdown in 2020 and onwards. From the pro-democratic folks' perspective, the government never gave anything even when the more pacifist, negotiable side tried, so out came the localists (who saw Hong Kong more as a distinct and even independent unit from China and wanted to make it so, as opposed to the previous democratic activists who, in my opinion rightly, believed that democracy in Hong Kong could not happen without simultaneously obtaining democracy in China for our brethren), and the radicals (who wanted to tear and burn things down so that the government was forced to listen for economic and PR reasons), and the moderate voices were quieted. Both sides saw the other as unnegotiable (Israel sometimes throws around the phrase "no partner for peace"), so they decided the only solution was to force the matter, which then spirals until... well, whichever has more force wins.