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[-] paranoia@feddit.dk 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The structure for solar panels is much heavier than for pure sunshade, as a person will have to walk on it to install and maintain the panels. You also have to deal with the associated health and safety regulations for working at height and live electricity, as well as probably pay more for insurance since there is an increased risk of fire.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 10 points 6 days ago

Why 1 purpose when 2 purpose possible?

Fuck cars, sure, but solar panels on roofing is smart.

[-] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

And for roof solar, we are not running out of space for them anytime soon. Plenty of buildings still haven't install them.

[-] Tobberone@feddit.nu 1 points 5 days ago

I agree, multiple land use is the way forward. Solar panels for their own sake is seldom good enough land use, even if may be cheaper to set up.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Do you think that they build roofs that can't support people walking on them?

[-] paranoia@feddit.dk 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, I do, and I have good reason to, because I am a structural engineer and have designed them myself on occasion. A lot of these canopies over car and bike shelters are just a sheet of plexiglass.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

Where are you designing these that they don’t need to support hundreds of pounds of snow or rain, or stand up to hail?

[-] paranoia@feddit.dk 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Northern/Western Europe.

Hail bounces off, rain flows off. For a very light duty structure like a smoking shelter, bike shelter or trolley corral, they sometimes have a curved plexiglass roof that snow can just fall off or be blown off. A person is a much more intense load than snow (a person's whole weight can be on one foot). The frame might take it, but the cladding may not.

Usually they are just a product off the shelf.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

My parents just bought and installed a small off the shelf carport, it has its own built-in gutter system and the ability to hold 100s of pounds on its metal roof. Nobody is covering cars with plexiglass, that would literally defeat the purpose of having shade.

[-] paranoia@feddit.dk 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Here's one for sale in Denmark, where I am, and where it snows. Polycarbonate instead of PMMA. Same thing. I wouldn't stand on it.

https://dancovershop.dk/products/carport-arizona-2-89x4-95m-palram-canopia-gra

Get an opaque sheeting if you want to keep UV off. Point stands.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

... that thing wouldn’t protect your car from shit where I’m from… that wouldn’t even protect your car from the sun except at like noon.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

I've seen the plexiglass ones he was talking about

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

I’m not doubting they exist, it sure looks cool. I’m just doubting it would stand up to a couple years where I’m from, and I don’t think that you would even need to stand on that to install solar panels anyway.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Which are a canopies or awnings not a roof.

[-] paranoia@feddit.dk 8 points 6 days ago

Fuck off lmao. A canopy is a roof.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

No it's not, if you asked to have a roof installed and someone installed a fucking canopy over your house, you'd be pissed.

This is like asking for a truck and they show up with a station wagon and tell you well it's got foldable back seats.

Words have meaning.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Yes, when they're called "awnings."

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Which isn't really a roof, it's just a cover.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yes. It doesn't need to be 1 contiguous roof, gaps big enough to fit a ladder are ideal.

spoiler

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

That's more of an awning than a roof though. Plus that picture shows that this was specifically designed with the panels. As those are just straight solar panels and not roofing that's had solar installed to it.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Awnings are fabric lol. This is a roof made with solar panels, a solar roof.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

And those panels are not light weight...so someone could walk on them if they wanted.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 5 days ago

Do not walk on solar panels.

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