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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ignore the evidence, discredit the messenger, and lie through your teeth. Why you so passionate about discrediting pedophiles rings? This isn't Pizza Gate nonsense.

[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Ignore the evidence, discredit the messenger, and lie through your teeth.

This is literally what you're doing. The lack of self awareness is shameless. I didn't ignore shit. The OP made a conspiracy theory statement that I asked to them to explain because they clearly posted conspiracy theory bullshit. They made two specific claims that I called out. First, they specifically said that Epstein was Mossad agent, which they failed to prove. Second, he made a string of lies about the Finders group/cult/movement/whatever. He said that they were Mossad/CIA operations to traffic kids to pedophiles and that this evidence was public and well known. I have very thoroughly demonstrated he's a liar and all his claims are wrong.

I literally linked the public information in my comment and spelled out how the public information he's talking about directly disproves him and his claims. His comeback was to give a literal chatgpt generated article on some substack that's run by shmucks who are trying to fearmonger people into buying gold and silver from them. Even then, the AI article is literally a restatement of the wiki article it has zero new information that the wiki article didn't have. How do they respond to me calling out their lies? They started calling me a fucking pedophile. That's not ignorance, that's just malicious misinformation.

It's completely insane that you're even willing to entertain low level conspiracy theory level bullshit as fact, not on the basis of accuracy, but on the basis hatred. Demanding clarity and accuracy is not an endorsement, it's fucking accountability. Do you honestly think that calling out this moron for spreading misinformation means I'm endorsing child rapists? What kind of brain dead notion is that? Fuck Epstein, anybody who's associated with him, and all other child rapists. You they won't get a shred of sympathy from me. Are you really going to stoop so low that you're going to endorse McCarthyist accusations from people who lack basic critical thinking skills? Like what are you even doing?

The thing is that my request thus far hasn't changed, and it won't change because I'm ultimately in the right. I asked for OP to provide evidence that actually prove their claims as he stated them. I don't want a conspiracy theory justification where I have to connect magical dots that don't exist or open my third eye and see a bigger picture that's not there. Their second claim about the finders has already been debunked, but if they, you, or anybody else can provide real evidence that actually shows that Epstein worked for Mossad or any government agency in an official capacity to traffic kids like they claimed, then please show it to me and I will gladly concede. Until then, I have no reason to believe conspiracy theories on the basis of "dude, trust me."

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://politicstoday.org/fbi-informant-claimed-epstein-was-israeli-spy-document-shows/

This is not conspiracy theory shit, as I said this isn't fucking Pizza Gate. We have several people who are familiar with him all saying it sure looks like it.

Accusation is not proof but there is additional evidence.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/19/israel-installed-security-at-epsteins-manhattan-apartment-for-ex-pm-barak

Elements in Isreal had much deeper ties than they would like to admit. Surprise surprise, no one wants to claim this guy after he was exposed.

I doubt Isreal trained him, but there is strong intelligence that he was an tool of Mossad and the CIA as in he did work for them. He provided material support to advance the interested of Israel and the USA around the world. Perhaps you could say he was just self serving, but that is exactly the type of person these agencies use.

https://www.democracynow.org/2025/11/12/epstein_israel

Perhaps what we are looking at is an individual that is both being used and using the USA, Russia, and Israel. I find it strange after all he did for Israel that they would say he actually worked against their wishes.

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/03/03/do-the-epstein-files-show-he-was-working-for-russia-or-another-intelligence-agency

And it is not just other people's words. Epstein bragged that he was a fixer, able to create and repair relations with different cultures and that he did work for Israel, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and the USA.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-steven-hoffenberg-intelligence-agencies-spy-1197708/

Going back to his plea deal in 2008 when Alex Costa said that he was told to back off (which he did) Epstein's prosecution because Epstein was involved in ongoing intelligence agency actions. He later denied he said this.

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-cia-ties/

We have good evidence that Epstein had compromised Ehud Barak. Israel and US intelligence would be aware of this.

https://www.trtworld.com/article/16616743

We also know he had strong connections to the CIA meeting with William Burns who went to director of the CIA.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-calendar-cia-director-goldman-sachs-noam-chomsky-c9f6a3ff

Pretending this is a "bro trust me" situation based upon the available information is a gross mischaraterization. I would even say that the conspiracy theory at this point is that Epstein didn't have the connections that everyone says, including himself, he had.

this post was submitted on 31 May 2026
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