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I've put endeavour on a bunch of desktops and various thinkpads of a variety of vintages, including very modern.
I dunno man, it just works. I buy conservative technology choices and vendors and shit just works.
The hardest thing in my life is getting WWAN to work reliably OOTB on thinkpads with cellular.
Edit: No, the hardest thing in my life is asking people "Is wayland in the room with us right now?" because I've yet to have a machine running wayland.
You misunderstood my question. How old are those installs? Chances are they're not very old.
Arch-based systems like EndeavourOS are rolling releases with minimal testing. They'll work fine at the start, but errors will accumulate over time. Breakage is not a question of if, but when, and when that happens, Arch assumes you're a savvy user who knows what youre doing and able to fix your stuff. If you aren't (and newcomers to Linux normally fall into that category), you're going to have a bad time.
Whatever the hype around Endeavour or CachyOS is: I wouldn't recommend any of them to Linux newcomers for this very reason. Instead, it's wise to give them a stable Debian-based OS to make themselves comfortable with Linux. Once they have arrived, they may or may not experiment with other flavours of Linux.
It feels like you're just gate-keeping Linux because you apparently had a bad experience. It doesn't sound like you've used an Arch-based distro in a while (or if you have, it was Manjaro - there has been a host of problems over there that will take a lot of time and effort to rebuild community trust, imo).
We've got 2 desktops and 2 laptops in our house all running Arch-based distros, the oldest being a little over 4 years old without any "breakage". Two of the users had not even seen Linux prior to this, and one of them is not at all what I would consider "computer savvy".
I can't speak for vanilla Arch, but all of the "Arch with helpers" distros I've ran had pretty simple buttons to deal with system maintenance. Additionally, I've seen firsthand the difference a rolling-release distro can make over a "stable" release for game and hardware compatibility. It's generally much easier to get (and keep) all the hardware working correctly on a gaming laptop in one of those arch-based distros than Debian or Mint, especially if it has an nvidia gpu. I couldn't in good conscience recommend anything debian based to someone in that boat personally.
The use of the system matters A LOT when recommending a new distro. For some grandparents that just browse facebook and send e-mails - yea I'd probably just put Debian or LMDE on their system. I'm not sure I would make the same recommendation to anyone else though.
I've not had the experience you've had.