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I'd never be able to be the one to pull the metaphorical or physical trigger when it comes to eating any animal. I love animals way too much. But damn some meats are just so good that it made it difficult to go fully vegetarian/vegan.
Do what I do and have someone else kill it.
That’s why I only ate chicken at some point.
If it helps vegan diets have caused more animal deaths then cattle ranching.
Mono cropping increases due to the rise in demand for vegan alternatives have caused some of the largest wide scale death of insects and natural pollinators of any farming practices. Which in turn is killing wild life all over the place.
The primary crops to support a vegan diet have also driectly caused some of the largest loss of habits and death to wild life due to how demanding on the land and tempamental they are.
Vegan diets literally are murder.
It is impossible to avoid killing animals on mass scales to support any form of human population no matter what form of diet you have.
You either raise and kill them directly in controlled fashions that minimize the damage to the environment. Or you destroy the land and wild habitats both indirectly and driectly though mass mono cropping farms to support extremely inefficient alterative crops on enough of a scale to allow for wide spread consumption.
In a bit of a weird twist a pescatarian diet and a more normal vegetarian diet that still consumed animal by products. Cause less harm to animal life then any other.
Avoiding "murder" is impossible. Its just factually not how nature works. But minimization is very possible. And reducing your demand on monocrops like soy saves more animals then any other option you can make.
Congrats on posting the most wrong thing I have read today.
Also, are you a writer for Landman?
This is just rage bait, no?
On soy usage: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/soybean-production-and-use
according to your source, some 85% of the entire global crop is pressed for oil for human use, and about 90% of what livestock is fed is just the waste product from the oil production.
Yes, through processing it, it has a double use as animal feed and vegetable oil/for biofuel. Don't know which is currently the most profitable one or main use. Used the source more to give context for direct use as human food (or the vegan focus the prior post had), which is kinda negligible.
85% of the global crop is put into oil presses.
Yeah, it’s not like factory farming does mono cropping like it’s a sport.
You can select what non-animal stuff you eat, but you can’t select what animals are fed. Unless there is some seal that limits what they can be fed or you really know the farmer. That’s a prime example for optimizing for the cheapest thing you can get that still delivers what you need.
Meat is a luxury good. It always was.
With 372,853,699Mg of soy production in 2021 and 8 billion world population, we could already give 127g of soy to every human every day. That’s like half a liter of soy milk and 100g tofu.
If meat is a luxury good, that means even the poorest of people live lives of luxury.
So, kinda nice in an oblivious sort of way
Maybe we should all just starve to death.