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[-] schwim@piefed.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago

There is something humorous to the fact that these users have waited until Firefox has begun the AI enshitification process before switching to it. It's like they just had to wait until it was no longer the clear. Good choice before they made the switch.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 73 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Firefox has begun the AI enshitification process

Dude, it's like five things – one of which is just translations that can be performed locally, and another of which is an alt text accessibility option – with an obvious universal kill switch (and of course individualized ones). Calm your tits. Chill your balls. I don't use LLMs at all except for translations, and I still think the whinging over this is completely overblown.

"Begun" implies a slippery slope of much more, and that just doesn't seem to be the case.

[-] schwim@piefed.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, ok chief.

[-] Sarothazrom@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Firefox lets you implicitly disable or remove them, slop browsers do not.

I don't like AI either but lets not pretend there's an equivalency between these browsers.

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

But this is talking about users who switched to Firefox only AFTER being presented with a choice directly in their face. The Firefox AI options are turned on by default, and I can't remember if it was easily guided to turn them off. So this group may not find that an easy solution, or find it at all.

[-] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The difference is that there is a switch. Chrome does not. Not to mention, Firefox has optional AI features, which is different from a local AI model automatically installed. Mozilla/Mozilla staff has been vocal about how bad of an idea it is to make local AI a web standard reference

[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

The AI stuff is behind a switch I have not seen a single AI feature while using Firefix nor do I see any ads

[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 19 points 2 weeks ago

FireFox was enhittified even before the AI bits: it fucking spies on you

That's why I use LibreWolf , which is literally just the latest-stable FF build, but with all the AI and telemetry ripped out, uBlock Origin and anti-fingerprinting enabled by default.

It's literally what FireFox was supposed to be. And they don't even accept money . God level.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

But there is no mobile version, and their FAQ says it's unlikely to happen. Instead they point to IronFox, which I presume is nowhere close to feature equivalent to Firefox.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

which I presume is nowhere close to feature equivalent to Firefox.

why do you presume that?

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because more people would be promoting it if that were the case? It is what it is, I'm not meaning to knock it, just wanting to seek clarity in its promotion. There are always going to be trade-offs, and it is up to each end-user to decide whether they can live with them.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

ironfox is not a brand new browser, but a soft fork like librewolf, always kept up to date. what it removes is the garbage google components, nothing useful is removed as I know. it even has a couple additional settings related to privacy, and Unified Push support for some reason I could not yet figure out

[-] cobalt32 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm personally quite partial to Fennec.

[-] YetAnotherYeti@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've been using Fennec for a while and it's been a great experience. Much good. Do recommend.

[-] yigruzeltil@lemmy.pt 3 points 2 weeks ago

IronFox, Fennec and Privacy Browser are all decent as far as mobile Firefox, on GrapheneOS I like to use mostly Vanadium and Privacy Browser

[-] thedormantotaku@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Same here. Only thing I am missing from brave is PWA support.

[-] thedormantotaku@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Its feature equivalent but it is so slow compared to Firefox fennec or waterfox.

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ironfox is literally a fork of Firefox Android with additional privacy settings. Why wouldn't 8 have equivalent features?

https://codeberg.org/ironfox-oss/IronFox

[-] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not denying, but how has it been spying? you mean telemetry?

[-] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes. "Telemetry" is a nice word for "spying on you"

[-] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago
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