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[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think the Israel option will actually more accurate given that they're the ones driving policy in the US.

#3.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/top-pacs/2024

[-] EmmiLime@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 weeks ago

That's just offloading the blame the US empire has always been carrying.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah dude, the colony where imperial powers dumped a hated ethnic minority to be in a state of eternal war with the local population to break the local population's strength is totally the one controlling the imperial power that has all the billionaires and lavish palaces.

Can you please not with the antisemitism?

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Israel is not Judaism.

Can you please not with the false equivalency?

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Israel is not Judaism, but Israel being the puppetmasters behind empire requires reading every rich person that knows a Jew as an Israeli agent and is taken straight from the long history antisemitic conspiracy theories.

[-] Krono@lemmy.today 7 points 3 weeks ago

Or people simply understand that our government is controlled by lobbyists, and one of the most powerful is the Israel lobby.

No antisemitism or conspiracy theory is required.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

one of the most powerful

Okay, now explain how that turns into driving US policy to such an extent that other nations should see Israel as the real threat?

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

isreal simply doesnt exist without US support, for all intents and purposes they are the same country

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

So, which is the real threat, the part of the country that wouldn't exist without the other par of of the country's support, or the part of the country that has over 40% of the world's military budget?

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

both, it's really not a hard concept to grasp

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes, enlightened centrism. One of the easier concepts to grasp, indeed. Great to hold on to if you want to stop thinking about something.

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Pray tell, are there any numbers other than 3? Maybe even ones that come before it?

Israeli lobbyists exists. The Mossad exists. Israeli propaganda exists. The problem is turning that into Israel controlling the US as if Israel isn't being outspent by the American aviation industry alone.

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Hating Israel isn't antisemitism, not sure how many ways this needs to be explained.

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