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[-] echo@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago

The software for linux phones is pretty much there. Gnome and KDE mobile are surprisingly capable. There’s built in apps for every basic thing you’d need on a phone like a dialer, SMS app, camera, etc. plus all the normal apps adapted to work with mobile like the calculator and maps apps.

The only real limitation is with the hardware. I have no idea why all new linux phones launch with specs from a decade ago. You can get a better experience by flashing ported Postmarket OS to an Android phone like the Nothing phone or a OnePlus 6t.

It shouldn’t be like that, no idea why it’s impossible to just have a linux phone with decent specs and a good camera on par with modern flagships.

[-] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Linux phones try to build from upstream Linux, and the major phone SoC vendors HATE upstreaming their code.

They believe every character in their source code is absolutely top secret.

A middle ground I wish was considered more is taking Google's kernel and the vendors DLKM partition/DTB/DTBO for hardware support, and putting a GNU userspace on top.

This has had problems in the past, because vendors would modify syscall tables such that they don't match userspace anymore, but with GKI, I think we're closer to that being a possibility

[-] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

Thats always the problem with building hardware open source products. You spend millions developing the OS to work with your stuff and you get like six months before someone else is competing with you, except they didn't have to spend that investment. The only reason we got the steamdeck was because the guys that made it ALSO owned the means of putting games on it, so they didn't really need to make money on the product itself (kinda like with Google and the play store).

[-] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At least with the vendors I'm referring to (2/3 that make all Android phones), they just took the open source code, hacked it up as quickly as possible to get some basic drivers working, and moved on.

There wasn't any "special sauce" in the source, they just didn't want to spend the effort to upstream it

Edit: Just because you said "hardware open source" I wasn't advocating for open hardware, just for hardware vendors to, ya know, support the hardware

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

"You can get a better experience by flashing ported Postmarket OS to an Android phone like the Nothing phone or a OnePlus 6t"

Can you relock the bootloader when flashing Postmarket OS to those phones? The only other OS that allowed for relocking the bootloader after flashing on certain phones was DivestOS, and unfortunately it went the way of the dodo.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Give me a flx1s with usbDP alt mode and usb3 and I’ll switch today.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

My 9a running Graphene works with a laptop usb C dock beautifully btw, just had to enable the beta in developer options.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago
[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[-] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Sorry, what about it isn't the same? Is the pixel not using DPAlt mode do handle external montors/docks?

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

It’s still just android. A Linux phone is like a full Linux PC in your pocket. Android is an abusable compromise.

Graphene is doing good work and is a great stopgap solution, but it’s not the end goal.

[-] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Ah, understood. I thought you were talking about the hardware.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Glad to hear it, as years back with the Pinephone, I had a.. worse than that experience. It was not good.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Because Linux phones with proper hardware are sold at 1k and hundreds of people want to but that, not thousands or millions and thus they don't actually get built. Couple of attempts just lasttear didn't pan out.

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