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[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

Lend-Lease was important without a doubt, but it’s often overstated by westerners. The USSR had already survived Moscow, won at Stalingrad, and held at Kursk before Lend-Lease was arriving at scale. It was also not what mainly armed the Red Army; the core weapons were overwhelmingly Soviet-made. Its biggest value was logistics: trucks, food, aluminum, machine tools, communications gear, etc. It made Soviet offensives faster and better supplied. But was far from decisive.

A fair estimate is that Lend-Lease probably shortened the war by something like 12–18 months, which is significant and meant many lives saved. But that is different from saying it was any sort of decisive reason for victory over the Nazis. The decisive factors were without a doubt Soviet industry, Soviet manpower, Soviet battlefield performance, and the Eastern Front destroying the main body of the Wehrmacht.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

This is 100% right. The turning point of the eastern front was Stalingrad, 1942, and most of lend-lease aid came after.

After Stalingrad it was clear that the Soviets would not be pushed back, and the nazis were on their heels for the rest of the war (even though it continued to be a slog). That's also why the US decided to open the western front in 1944: to prevent an inevitable Red Europe.

[-] Jikiya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The soviets might have killed just as many germans without lend-lease, we'll never know, but with over 75 percent of their trucks, and something like half the fuel being delivered through lend lease, there's no way they would have made it into Germany. The US also delivered a great deal of food aid with that.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

You can believe what you want but I hope you understand that historians do not generally support your idea of what happened. Even American historians of the Eastern Front like David Glantz, argue that without Lend-Lease the USSR still defeats Germany, but later and at greater cost. So again yes, Lend-Lease trucks, food, fuel, rail equipment, aluminum, machine tools, and communications gear were incredibly valuable. They improved Soviet logistics, saved lives, and likely shortened the war by up to a year or more. But that is not the same as saying Lend-Lease was the decisive factor in victory (because it wasn't).

By the time Lend-Lease really kicked into gear at major scale, the Nazis had already failed at Moscow, been crushed at Stalingrad, and lost the strategic initiative after Kursk. The USSR had also already relocated much of its industry beyond the Urals, outside German reach, and was producing the bulk of its own tanks, artillery, aircraft, ammunition, and small arms. Lend-Lease helped the Red Army advance faster and more efficiently, from 1943 onward, but the claim that the USSR could not have reached Germany without it is just nonsense.

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