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Veganism is Leftism (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 26 points 6 days ago

I think being offended by this meme means that one isn't wholly comfortable with one's own cognitive dissonance

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Wanting to enjoy animal products and a great deal of the types of food ever made by humans does not inherently necessitate animal exploitation, and therefore isnt necessarily cognitive dissonance.

Factory farms and legitimate animal abuses are horrific, but the vast majority of human relationships to animals and animal products in history has not been anything like that. I dont take issue with actual husbandry or hunting, its the circle of life.

One of the great failures of activism in this area is that vegans conflate horrific animal abuses like factory farms with any form of eating animal products, which most people would not agree with, and it makes it easy for people to write off any activism to close factory farms and things like that as just “crazy vegans” or whatever.

I would love to see lab grown meat and other things that mean we could move beyond killing animals for consumptive purposes, and eventually we will. In the meantime, we can have ethical farming practices that ensure quality lives for animals that will be eaten. There is no cognitive dissonance in that. I dont think the majority of people believe there is an ethical issue with eating animals at large, just that there are unethical ways to raise animals to be eaten. I dont take issue with anyone believing that eating any animal products is unethical, but I also do not believe that there is some universal ethical truth to that idea whatsoever, nor that people eating meat is purely a social construct. Humans are omnivorous animals, we evolved to eat animals. If anything, veganism is far more of a socialized construct than biological evolution.

Beyond that, there are plenty of animal products that vegans refuse to eat even though taking them doest harm the animal or cost its life. Eggs, dairy or butter, etc.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Beyond that, there are plenty of animal products that vegans refuse to eat even though taking them doest harm the animal or cost its life. Eggs, dairy or butter, etc.

You should do some research on what industrial scale dairy and egg farms are like. It's not much better, and in some cases worse.

Common practices include:

  • Throwing live freshly born male chicks into blenders

  • Chickens being confined, thousands at a time, in small dark spaces where they spend all their lives. Often dying to wounds from fighting each other due to being kept in such unnaturally close proximity

  • Due to a variety of tactics to maximize eggs per chicken, they often deplete their calcium, meaning they break their bones when attempting to stand

  • Dairy cows often spend most of their 'useful' lives (4-5 years) in concrete boxes barely larger than their own bodies, head pointed to food, and grates behind where waste can flow

  • The calves taken from dairy cows (necessary for them to begin lactation) end up in the same meat industry if male

  • Dairy cows, once out of their prime, end up in the same meat industry

[-] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 3 points 5 days ago

I dont get my meat nor dairy nor eggs from factory farms shrimple as that

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago

What in the cope did I just read

[-] ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago

It’s simplistic and implies leftism as a monolith. That being said, it’s a meme not an essay. Starting an argument from a talking point devoid of context invites dissent. As well as ridicule.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago

It's completely accurate. There are so many right wing arguments responding to this post it's not even funny. So many white liberals setting the timetable to another's liberation, so many LGB people who think the T is just going too far, so many workers threatening to vote for the party that dismantles workers' rights if the pro-worker party supports migrants.

And the same happens every time. Non-vegan self-identified leftists' arguments against animal liberation are almost always right wing logic and right wing talking points.

[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 points 5 days ago

yea, I see the same things you do.

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