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[-] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

Your Steam Controller is yours, and you have the right to do with it what you want. That said, we highly recommend you leave it to professionals.

Talk about mixed messaging...

[-] FlihpFlorp@piefed.zip 68 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Personally I don’t think it’s mixed

As someone who (outside of basic game modding) hates to tinker out of fear of breaking something, that second part is aimed at people like me.

In other words I read this is “Hey FlipFlop, you could make all these changes, but let’s leave that to your buddies who actually know electronics and hardware so you don’t end up with $100 steam brand paperweight “

Edit: check out the page and that’s pretty much what was said right after “Any damage you do will not be covered by your warranty” “You might break your controller”

[-] markz@suppo.fi 45 points 2 weeks ago

It's a warning to those who would likely just break their expensive controllers. Some people know stuff about electronics and can make custom parts and other things. It could spawn a cottage industry.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Do people really need a warning to know that they might break something if they open it up without knowing what they're doing?

[-] markz@suppo.fi 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, and there's nothing mixed about the messaging. If you know what you're doing, go ahead. If you don't, dont.

Usually compsnies would just say no to everyone and throw around words like "unauthorized".

[-] quack@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

You underestimate how stupid the average person is.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

They are addressing a diverse audience with their messaging. Not just you.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] three@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Then why are you so butthurt about this?

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why are you fabricating all of these presumptions about me?

[-] three@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

I can infer from all your replies in the thread that you are seething underneath all of these "composed" messages.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

LOL you are not "inferring", you are "fabricating". And I don't understand why.

[-] three@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Take a breather, bud

:^)

[-] ScientifficDoggo@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago
[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They release CAD files for DIYing "sweaters", tell you you can do with it whatever you want, and then tell you they "strongly recommend" hiring someone else to do it for you in the next sentence, and you don't think that's mixed messaging?

Would you say the same if Framework told you they "highly recommend" hiring a professional to swap your SSD?

[-] WR5@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago

"Your house and electrical wiring is yours, and you have the right to do with it what you want. That said, we highly recommend you leave it to professionals."

This is not mixed messaging, this is just advice. Mixed messaging would be something along the lines of: "Your house and electrical wiring is yours, and you have the right to do with it what you want. That said, you are not allowed to do what you want." Mixed messaging colloquially means contradictory statements.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

“Your house and electrical wiring is yours, and you have the right to do with it what you want. That said, we highly recommend you leave it to professionals.”

Your house is not delivered with documentation for the wiring. Further, fucking up the wiring in your house can literally kill you, so no, this is not an apt analogy.

Mixed messaging colloquially means contradictory statements.

No, that's a contradiction. "Mixed" is exactly what it sounds like. The messaging is unclear.

[-] magikmw@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

My house did. With diagrams and photos. Very useful.

[-] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

You're grossly overestimating the competency of the general public

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

The competency of the general public is not relevant.

[-] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

You are entitled to your own opinions but we advise you leave it to the professionals.

[-] ScientifficDoggo@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't expect changing an SSD to be such a technical task for you.... I mourn your lego-less youth.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have no idea where you got the idea that that would be "such a technical task" for me. Nor why you think I had a "lego-less youth". I'm >35 y/o and have been repairing computers since I was 15.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

Then the warning obviously isn't directed at you, chill out. It's for everyone who does need to be told that tinkering with the electronics in the controller can break it if they don't know what they're doing.

"Welcome to your new linux system. You can delete or modify anything you want in the root directory, but we recommend leaving that to someone who knows what they're doing."

It's not a mixed message.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Then the warning obviously isn't directed at you

Once again, I didn't think it was.

It's for everyone who does need to be told that tinkering with the electronics in the controller can break it if they don't know what they're doing.

Anyone dumb enough to need to be told this would pay it no heed.

"Welcome to your new linux system. You can delete or modify anything you want in the root directory, but we recommend leaving that to someone who knows what they're doing."

No Linux distributor in their right mind would tell you anything like that. They would tell you to learn.

It's not a mixed message.

It very much is.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Once again, I didn't think it was.

Then why are you so butthurt about it?

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What did I say that you interpreted as being "butthurt"? Why are you fabricating lies about my technical proficiency, my age, and my emotional state?

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

I never said anything about your age or your technical proficiency, so you're the one fabricating lies if you really wanna suggest that.

As for your emotional state, I asked why you're being butthurt because you're being butthurt.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for refusing to answer my question and confirming you were making shit up for no reason.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's okay, keep acting like a petulant child. There there.

[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

Ehhh... Reads like the standard "we're happy with you tweaking it, but don't want to be liable for you breaking it."

If you try to sue them, they can point to this section of their docs and say you didn't follow their recommendations.

[-] tiberius@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sometimes you want someone else to do it. I added a 2nd SSD to my laptop a few years back. It resulted in a new drive and a few broken plastic tabs.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Did you not know that you might damage something if you open it? If someone told you that, would you have taken it to a professional?

[-] tiberius@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For a screen or CPU replacement, yes. For memory, no. Gotta break what's not broken to fix something.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is not a screen or CPU or memory, this is the exterior shell. It's like removing the cover from the back of your laptop.

[-] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

And what would be the reason to open up the shell in the first place? To mess with the electronics inside. Which is only recommended to people that know what they are doing because of the risk to break it.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

And what would be the reason to open up the shell in the first place?

There's no reason to speculate, they spell this out plainly in the OP:

Feel free to use these to make your own Puck holders, Controller sweaters, or whatever else you want to create!

[-] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

You don't need to open the shell and access the internals if you are making a controller sweater and it wouldn't void your warranty. That is not what Valve is warning about. They ask you to not fuck with the internals unless you know what you are doing.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

You don't need to open the shell and access the internals if you are making a controller sweater

Yes, that was indeed my point, thank you.

That is not what Valve is warning about.

...its exactly what they're warning about. You should really read the content in the OP before commenting on it.

[-] DaTingGoBrrr@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

or whatever else you want to create!

You understand that you can use CAD files to make custom internal components too, right? It's not only for making skins or cosmetic surface changes.

You can 3D print an entire new shell for the controller but replacing the shell requires that you remove all of the components to then put them back in to the new shell. And that I would consider advanced. Not recommended for people that do not know what they are doing.

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