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!fediverse@piefed.social mod throws insults then blocks replies.
(lemmy.dbzer0.com)
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YPTB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
Relevant comms
Clear PTB.
Also a nonsensical thread to start with, all conjecture (but calling it fact). I believe someone has misplaced their poop knife or other shit stirring tool, and its making posts.
Edit: To be clear, I'm talking about the lack of mod action on what is a pretty obvious shit stirring / drama farming post, but instead making an incredibly illogical and uninformed comment about it instead, then taking mod action on snark - while also throwing insults around.
Curbstickle, it is not "all conjecture." The thread says it was an AI-assisted ban, and it is one.
People should also be aware that you have been advocating for the use of AI to ban people, a position that is so extreme that even the db0 moderators explicitly deny doing it.
Oh, now you're just lying dude.
I said it makes sense to leverage them to summarize. I never said to use as an automod. Don't lie about what I said.
I never claimed your in favor of automodding (curious lie to make up). Simply that you're in favor of using AI instead of your own eyes to review comments.
Bullshit you just fucking did.
I said AI is handy to summarize. You said use it to moderate. Normally I'd just block someone like you, but I want to make sure I can report you when you lie again.
...for making moderation decisions. Using AI in the moderation process instead of a human review. That's so extreme not even Flatworm (The person who generated the AI report) is willing to claim they did.
It's weird you turned into such a pedant after telling me words in quote marks don't need to be exact quotes. Selective outrage I guess
LYING AGAIN.
Using AI to summarize and find the comments, then a person reviews, which I said HOURS before you commented.
Stop making shit up.
A person reviews... The summary? The one with incorrect quotes (which doesn't bother you for some reason)? Even Flatworm claims the AI summary was not used in their moderation decision.
You can keep being pedantic, but you're calling for more AI in the moderation than even db0 admins want to endorse.
You check a summary, which makes specific references. Which you can then use to find the exact comments.
Otherwise you have to manually look page by page through comments.
If this concept is hard for you, a remedial English class may help. Its how many documents get written, and would be reviewed in such a class.
Thank you for explaining how you want administrators to use AI even more than they (allegedly) already do. You don't need to keep going
Same thing ive said since the beginning, I'm sorry reading is clearly so tough for you.
With practice you can improve.
Same thing I said you said. Good luck with your remedial classes
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(I thought an emoji would be easier for you)
Off to them now?
Nah, I took a break from teaching actually.
Seriously though, you are demonstrating functional illiteracy. You are mixing statements around, which is either intentional and clearly misinformation, or unintentional, in which case you really should get some remedial classes as youre operating at a 6th grade level (struggling with abstract concepts and separate references).
Good luck out there.
You definitely have the temperament of a good teacher...
I made the mistake of assuming you were literate, which would mean that you chose to lie about what I said.
In class I know going in that they need to learn the basics. Thats why I'm calm now, I now know you need some assistance. You're not a liar, you just have reading comprehension problems.
Very not mad, yes. Do you recall how quote marks work?
Wow right back again to complain about punctuation for a summary!
I can't do this all day bud, so let's recap.
The top is a summary, below there are direct comment quotes and links to them.
You are currently complaining about the use of quotes for paraphrased language, which should ideally be separated with italics or something, but its markdown, so generated summaries usually use quotes instead.
Do you know what a "summary" is?
Are summaries where I can make up things you didn't actually say, and put them in quote marks?
If that's true, assume I've been summarizing you this whole time 😂
You've been doing that the whole time, what's the difference?
It's not an either/or situation. I manually reviewed it, came to a conclusion, then generated the AI summary to see if it was any good. And then I manually banned that user. You are implying a much bigger role for AI than it actually played.
Does that mean the ban reason in the mod log isn't the ban reason?
Were the quotes in the AI summary actually used for "seeing if it was any good" at the time, and if so, what was the concision?
Nah that dude would have been bannerd regardless of an LLM, he's such a lying hasbarabot it's blatant. The LLM was being tested out, found lacking (and hence discarded) but in this one case produced output which closely matched what the admin had seen themself and so they just used that instead of writing it on their own.