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Voting blue didn't stop shit
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The inflation reduction act invested heavily into renewables and green tech. There is always more that could be done, but you really think Trump would've passed something like that?
Ok but Floridas oceans are boiling now so whats some minor green tech investment going to do?
Are they banning fossel fuel? No. Are they expanding public transport? No. Are they making it easier for people to work from home to reduce cars communitng? No. Are they abolishing the needless overproduction in the private sector that's causing global warming? No.
They're doing some light handed shit that will probably just result in a new kind of pollution (lithium batteries are bad for the environment.)
They're never going to solve climate change under capitalism because the will never stop the ever growing production and consumption of the businesses that donate to them.
I will share with you an important moment in the history of my jokerfication
I was at a meeting of an org I used to be in that worked with democrats and a guy who described himself as "progressive" was making his pitch for our endorsement. I asked him if he would support creating a light rail network in the minor metro area I was living in. This metro area once had a light rail system that was ripped out to make way for cars.
He said he was not interested in such "antiquated" technology but was interested in supporting public transportation of the future.
Public transportation of the future? State-subsidized Uber
Anyway fuck vooting bloo for what little it's worth (hardly anything) after they fucked Bernie I voted green in the general and next time for me it's between Cornel West and Gloria LaRiva
I always laugh at the people who cry about needing to "compromise" on these things.
I want the forced nationalisation of the energy industry and a managed decline of fossil fuels. Passing legislation to regulate them instead is the compromise, now make it effective actually instead of this weak-ass incentive based bs
Fixed that for you
Couldn't agree more. But you can't overthrow capitalism, not now. It's too powerful, the only way to change it is to work with it, organize, and get elected. There's not much me or you alone can do.
Look, I want fully-automated gay space communism as much as the next guy, but that's not going to come about anytime soon, unless some superintelligent AI tales over and that's it's preferred form of governance. If my choice is between two geriatrics, one of whom is a neonazi, then I'm voting for the one that's not a neonazi.
It's a low bar, sure. But that's the reality we live in.
Trump is a neonazi and Biden is just the other racist who continues the genocidal sanctions on the underdeveloped world (and American imperialist operations in Yemen and Israel, of which Biden labeled himself a “Zionist” (totally normal)) and imperialist trade relations, continues the imperialist relationship with Central and South America (and Africa) while obscuring the “border crisis” and putting immigrants in concentration camps, upholds the men and movement that inspired Nazism (founding fathers and early Amerika), continues to fund the police so they can terrorize black and poor people, continues the colonialist relationship with Puerto Rico and Hawaii and South Korea, so on.
Why is Trump a neonazi? Because he said Nazi shit? The U.S. does Nazi shit all across the globe and to its own population. Biden is no less a neonazi than Trump.
I don't want fully automated gay space communism, I want the very real tangible successes communists have and continue to make. No scratch that, we NEED that. The reality we live in is one in which communist nations still exist, in which third world progressive nations exist, in which disruption can and is done. You are spewing the same shit the 2nd International did, and you know what their detractors did? They created the freaking USSR
Yeah, okay! We want the same things. But it doesn't help when european parties advocating for these things work with people like Putin! The US doesn't even have a realistic opposition to the two parties.
European parties advocating for these things are not the path to them. Electoral parties dont bring you communism, and parties advocating in Europe is not the example to follow. Also what the fuck does Putin have to do with anything? The German left parties are pro-Ukraine, France has shattered communist parties, Italy collapsed in the 90s, etc etc. At most you have the reformist liberal Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
You cannot even begin to think outside of what established electoral parties advocate for. And in Europe no less. Venezuela, Bolivia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, India, etc are the examples to look at. Along with African movements for de-colonization. The US doesn't NEED a realistic opposition to the two parties, because a party opposition merely funnels people back into electoralism. The Bolsheviks didn't do the October Revolution by voting in the Provisional Government. Mao didn't beat Chiang in a race. Ho didn't campaign for votes against Nixon. Even the examples that are electoral like the CPI-M(Marxist) are weaker and on the backfoot, but in the places they have power got there through militant action borne out of literal uprisings in those regions during partition.
Electoral parties do not bring political change, and the fact that you give a shit what european parties think let alone that some of them(?) "work with Putin" shows that you don't want political change, you want a friendlier bourgeoise system
-Gramsci
The point is "viability" as an electoral party being a concern means you have already failed to believe in the purpose of a Communist Party. The Socialist Party he refers to gained far more power than Communists ever do electorally, and was far more radical than the democrats ever have been, even under FDR. And yet that party when it held power changed nothing, the Communists did more through agitation pre-Eurocommunism. At best electoral or parliamentary left parties can work not by contesting elections but by refusing to vote or through guerilla tactics as Costello laid out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCldL_qukLQ
I recommend this piece by Rosa as the revolution in Germany began in which she spells out how all their attempts in the national Assembly amounted to NOTHING
The National Assembly is an outmoded legacy of bourgeois revolutions, an empty shell, a requisite from the time of petit-bourgeois illusions of a ‘united people’ and of the ‘liberty, equality, fraternity’ of the bourgeois State.
Socialism or barbarism (through climate catastrophe).
Don't let them tell you what's possible
That's great and all but I'm more concerned that every GOP state is engaged in actual by the book per international law genocide against my friends and loved ones and the President is doing fuck all about it.
Like great, cool, awesome, symbolic gestures about a crisis that is far to advanced to avert, but could you please send the army in to Florida before they start murdering trans people at an industrial rate.
Man who the fuck was actually helped by that. Do you know anyone that can afford shit? I certainly don't. All the folks I know that were trying their best but living paycheck to paycheck before the pandemic are living credit card to credit card now. Once that runs out they'll probably be homeless. Inflation reduction only helps if it means people can actually afford shit.
it's not that trump would have been better, it's that we shouldn't be using trump or republicans as the bar we measure politicians against. it's a really low fucking bar.
these democrats are occupying the position of opposition, but since they're ineffective and corporate, the republicans are allowed to push further and further right with every election. And since democrats are occupying said position (and actively attack anything that threatens said position) it's difficult for any other person or institution or party to arise that can represent actual, effective opposition to republicans.
So in each individual vote we are trapped in an impossible-to-win game theory problem in which choosing the lesser of two evils is the strictly rational choice, no matter how bad it is, as long as it's technically better. And thus democratic politicians can assume any "rational" dem voter is going to vote blue no matter who, so they (the democratic politicians) can spend their time/energy catering to other demographics (or more often, their major donors).
It's only the actual threat of a withheld vote that keeps dems in line, as the only thing more materially impactful to their interests than donor money is losing their seat (and thus the power that the donors are paying for). So despite the fact that the rational choice within a single vote is to choose the technically better option no matter what, when acting in a series of votes it may become rational to abstain when our interests aren't being represented.
And even so, all of this electoralism is very effectively acting as the circus of bread and circuses. We need to be out and organizing outside of controlled political institutions.
Wow. That really matters.
Government funds stolen from the third world I hope your settler colony burns. Can't have "positive reforms" under an imperialist structure