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[-] Marthirial@lemmy.world 119 points 3 months ago

If you are still active on Reddit after all the enshitification, you are enshitified and getting furious is no longer an option.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 76 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately it’s captured a lot of information and resources.

Think about crafting - I’m going to find a lot more knitting tutorials on Reddit than I will here. Lemmy is very like early Reddit, where it’s only really active on topics like politics and technology.

[-] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

What do you need to craft in your life besides building the perfect Linux distro? /s

On a side note, how do you find Reddit vs Ravelry for knitting?

[-] stinely_yours@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

Two toooootally different formats.

Ravelry is a archive (want to know the attributes of any yarn or errata on any pattern ever?), project journal, occasionally interactive (imo the forum/groups can be dead).

Knittit is just FO’s and chat (chat good for exchanging technique knowledge).

[-] lumpyluggage@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

And a LOT of really odd niche stuff. The biggest nerds migrated to here.

[-] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

To be fair, I was totally lost even as a Reddit veteran, for quite a while, which is why my adoption to Lemmy was slow. It took me a very long time to really start to understand how the federation worked, and I still would not say I'm an expert in any way.

I still need to use mobile apps' auto-fill features to help myself properly tag users and communities on other instances, an issue I never one had on Reddit.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 6 points 3 months ago

That's our intellectual property! For various values of "intellectual".

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Just search on one of the AIs that scraped Reddit.

[-] joyjoy@piefed.social 23 points 3 months ago
[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'm sorry were we not just talking about trying to get back on Reddit?

Enough with the anti-AI bs, it's cringe.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Enough with pretending AI is useful for looking things up, it's cringe.

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It's a lot more than using Reddit's search engine.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

But that's not what this thread is about

[-] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

No-one uses Reddit's search engine unless there's a specific reason to.

[-] Blibly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago
[-] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 months ago
[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You're willing to use Reddit but not AI?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

I'd rather use Reddit than AI, yes.

If someone says something incorrect on Reddit there's a good chance there's someone pointing it out. AI will insist it is correct when it tells you "strawberry" has 2 "R's".

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

If someone says something incorrect on Reddit there's a good chance there's someone pointing it out.

There's a very small chance of someone pointing it out. There's a better chance they'll be downvoted. There's an even better chance someone right will be downvoted and someone pointing out their mistake, incorrectly, will be upvoted.

You can't be serious if you're telling me you're going to use Reddit comments as a reliable source of information, but then ideologically object to the idea of using an LLM for the same purpose.

AI will insist it is correct when it tells you "strawberry" has 2 "R's".

Have you used AI in the past year?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can't be serious if you're telling me you're going to use Reddit comments as a reliable source of information, but then ideologically object to the idea of using an LLM for the same purpose.

I'm saying Reddit is more reliable than AI. I agree with you that you shouldn't just trust Reddit as a reliable source of information, I just trust AI much less.

Have you used AI in the past year?

Yes yes, someone has hard-coded a fix for the strawberry thing. It's still an excellent example of the root issue:

  1. it was a thing everybody knew was incorrect and they could see how AI dealt with it: guessing, and then insisting it made no mistakes.
    If I can't trust it for basic information I can double check myself then why the fuck would I trust it for information I can't verify myself?

  2. everytime something like this comes up it gets "fixed", sure. Someone hard codes a correct answer to the specific question that everyone can easily see is incorrect. Why the fuck would I assume that's happening for some obscure thing that I don't immediately know is incorrect?
    Sure, it's probably not telling people to put glue on pizza anymore, because everyone who reads that knows it's a bad idea. How do I know it's not suggesting something equally stupid when I ask it how to rewire a thermostat, something that the majority of people won't immediately clock as "that will burn your house down"?

LLMs are really good at sounding smart to people who don't know when it is very wrong.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

Current outlook issues are currently being talked about at length over on r/Outlook, and last I searched no one had even mentioned it on Lemmy.

There are definitely some legit reasons people still go there.

[-] limer@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago
[-] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago

Loving FOSS and being able to use it are different things - plenty of people are required to use outlook at work.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

I use Outlook for work, but it will be a cold day in hell when you catch me reading an Outlook subreddit

[-] limer@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

I understand why people on lemmy look at the outlook subreddit. Sometimes they have to use it at work, and outlook breaks in difficult to understand ways. Poor chaps

[-] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago
[-] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Same... though I guess the alternative would just be Google anyway...

[-] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

My personal email is neither. I use a very small company that's located in a different country and who speaks a different language. It is a paid service but the cost is very small.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I view Reddit for that kind of stuff, still. But don't participate.

At risk of posting a long list of grievences, well, I'm not giving them my engagement. And for reference/issue stuff, you largely don't need it.

[-] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 6 points 3 months ago

There’s also people who are and have been involved in interests for a long time that are well covered by discussion on Reddit and Facebook.

We like to give these networks shit and justifiably so but unfortunately there are no genuine alternatives for things like Marketplace, Facebook groups and subreddits in terms of complex discussion.

[-] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 2 points 3 months ago

I buy used all the time and once never used fb marketplace. I promise you it's easier to replace than reddit.

[-] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Go on, where do you buy from?

[-] luxadazy@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

until people start posting their relationship melodrama on lemmy, i’ll still be lurking reddit unfortunately. i need my soaps.

[-] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

"I stole my girlfriend's dog and emptied her bank account without her knowledge and now she's mad at me for some reason. AITA?"

[-] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"My (25F) bf (61M) burned down my house after he got mad at me for 'not being servile enough'. I asked him to please consider thinking about a plan to try not to do this again, but he won't promise. This seems wrong but I'm not sure. AIO?"

[-] Monte_Crisco@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 months ago

Is this platform the best alternative?

I genuinely miss having discussions with Maga people. Even though the conversations are rarely productive, I still have hope that my comments will sometimes give that person (or a Maga lurker) some food for thought that could potentially get the ball rolling for them to eventually find rationality and basic decency.

However, I haven’t found any places to have those types of civil conversations on here.

[-] BigBrownDog@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Let me try to help.

Listen up, blue hair, soy boy, beta cuck. I'll gladly pay out the ass for gas so trans people don't get to place 4th place in college badminton that I was previously unaware of.

Does that do it for you?

[-] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 2 points 3 months ago

Most of them on Reddit are bots dude.

[-] baahb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Is someone who has been enshitified an enshitiphile?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

Wouldn’t that mean someone who likes enshitification? Which is what OP implied. But using the term enshitified means the person themselves has gone through the enshitification process. Maybe then one implies the other?

[-] PlzGibHugs@piefed.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Theres only so much one man can do to prop up a community. Reddit is still where you have to go for anything even remotely niche, since Reddit is thousands of times the size of the Fediverse. For example, if you wanted to get an alternative to the Dota 2 subreddit, you'd need a community maybe a 10th the size of Reddit's Dota 2 community - equivalent to 5% of the Fediverse posting on a weekly basis. Right now, its roughly 0.0004% of the Fediverse, for reference.

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