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A short summary of the not war with Iran
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/46206701
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only three countries have ever had nukes and willingly handed them over to de-escalate tensions about everyone having nukes: Ukraine, Belarus, and Pakistan. All three are consistent battlegrounds of the global northern empires now. the nuclear countries have demonstrated, it seems, to the global south that the adults table at the UN is who has nukes and if you get nukes and give them up, you will be punished for your good faith
Uhh, Pakistan still has a bunch of nukes, Kazakhstan gave theirs up at the same time as the other two, and South Africa had them and gave them up. Also there's no war in Pakistan, and only war at a low level in Belarus (and they're the aggressor).
thanks. i wrote that up real fast and i got my countries mixed up. and in the case of Belarus what i was talking about is that their existence as a russian colony has been perhaps more strongly cemented than back when they were a union republic of the ussr
Pakistan couldn't lose their nukes, they need them to MAD with India
yeah i don't even know why in my head i didn't flag that when i was literally thinking about how anxiety inducing it is how many of the nations with nukes are run by authoritarian freaks
While I agree broadly with what you said, Pakistan has kept their nukes, and is therefore quite independent. Belarus is also fine, since they're a Russian protectorate.
What about South Africa?