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Tolstoy: "I am a man [human]. How should I live? What do I do?"


β€œYou are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people's feet." - Matt 5:13


The Salt

We're humans. Therefore, how should we live? What do we do? Well, what good is salt if it's lost the reason for its existence β€” to preserve foods or make them taste better? Considering a humans unparalleled potential and ability for selflessness in contrast to any other living thing that's ever existed β€” as far as we know, of course β€” wouldn't it become incredibly obvious what the reason for a creature as conscious and capable as a human is made to live for? Objectively, God or not: to strive to be as selfless as possible; to be capable of acknowledging any of its more barbaric and selfish thoughts or behaviors β€” at all in the first place β€” and abstain from them, for a purpose outside of itself. This is the "salt": selflessness.

What good is a human that's lost its purpose? What good are humans as a whole if we've lost our purpose as a whole? Crippling ourselves, defiling our own minds from the images of our past or potential futures we create in our heads via the double-edged sword that is our imagination, governing so much over how we feel and behave today; our desires and vanities for the sake of ourselves taking precedence over our design, i.e., building your house (your life) on the sand, on what's as temporary as "breath" or "vapor" ("spirit"), like most people. Rather than on the rock, on what can withstand the tides of time, like Jesus or Socrates did; what ultimately reveals itself to be the truest life or, the "true life."

Why don't we ever see birds, for example, sitting around all day, stimulating their sense organs or crippling themselves by how they didn't fulfill xyz desire or vanity for the sake of themselves via the way mankind has presently manipulated its environment and organized itself? Because the extent of how much less conscious birds (nature in general) are of themselves. Could you imagine what would happen if bees stopped doing what they were made to do? In favor of what they want out of their lives? Life on Earth, yet again, would be led to be extinguished, as it did roughly six other times over the last five billion years. Is there anything unique that humans as a whole bring to the table, similar to how the species of bees do for all life on Earth?

"Happy the meek β€” because they shall inherit the land." - Matt 5:5 YLT

A day, even millenniums from now, where violence, at the very least, is considered a laughable part of our past as the idea of a King is to us now for example; not by supernatural means, but seen in the sense of Tolstoy's personal, social, and divine conceptions of life. Through a painfully slow millenniums long transitioning into it. Without humans, life on Earth continues as it did for the last five billion years, with no great potential for anything to act upon itself or everything else β€” selfishness or selflessness (morality) upon an environment. This is what makes more conscious, capable beings β€” on any planet, unique: Its capacity for morality in contrast. But what if these beings begin to do the opposite of what they were designed for? As salt is useless without its taste, so would humans β€” from the point of view of an unimaginable God(s) or creator(s) of some kind, even from an atheist's point of view β€” be useless without its purpose: Selflessness, to even and especially, the most extreme degrees. Rather than incessantly choosing itself all throughout its life as β€” out of inherency β€” a more conscious monkey would; and when the storm of death begins to slowly creep toward the shore of your conscience, where will you have built your house (your life)? Out on the sand? As most people would be inherently drawn to? "And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.” - Matt 7:27

"Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction [selfishness], and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life [selflessness], and those who find it are few." - Matt 7:13

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[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Counterpoint: How do you help a MISSERABLE self-less martyr? People that keep giving after they have nothing left to give and end-up dragging everyone around them down with their misery and good intentions?

There are too many people like-so in this world for the problem to be any shortage of perspectives promoting selflessness. When you grind an obvious point into infertile dirt, the original obviousness of it does nothing to prevent it becoming such dirt.

Oh, the reason you throw otherwise-useless salt where it will be trampled underfoot is because its only remaining use is to stop plants growing where they aren't wanted - you can still poison fields and wells with enough of it, so it belongs on dirt roads and maybe trails.

[-] Codrus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Counterpoint: How do you help a MISSERABLE self-less martyr? People that keep giving after they have nothing left to give and end-up dragging everyone around them down with their misery and good intentions?

What do you mean here exactly? I'm not following. Do you mind explaining?

When you grind an obvious point into infertile dirt, the obviousness of it does nothing to prevent it becoming such dirt.

I'm sorry, again I'm not sure what you are saying. Do you mind clarifying?

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

Take care of yourself. Nothing I wrote was all that deep, difficult to process, vague, or couched in obtuse language, but if you need it simplified and personalized:

Maybe if you take better care of yourself, you will understand simple points made simply.

How are you supposed to help others if you can't even be bothered to learn to understand them? Are you just coasting by on the whims of society, randomly "fixing" the issues of people with more expertise and a better understanding of their wants and needs than you? And if not, without working on your understanding skills or having the time to look in the mirror, how would you know?

Touched-up any Frescos out of the goodness of your heart lately? Were your efforts appreciated?

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