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[-] anzo@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago

Grew up in South America. Crying was treated with violence in many occasions. But it was more systematic and dependant on context... Like if the male kid having the tears was a popular one or after a lost football match, then was okay-ish or met with some surprise. If it was any other kid with "lower maleness" (e.g. other sport than football, or a kid that also happened to be sigma, or beta) then there was a high correlation of violence. This was excercised by other males, as part of a ritual to their own maleness. Yeah. Crazy stupid.

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

The terms sigma and beta are just made up bullshit. Even the original wolf study was about captive wolves and was subsequently disproven by studies of wild wolves.

Human relationships and hierarchies are far too complex to be explained this way.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

First, the "alpha male" in a wolf pack is a myth. Not entirely the same thing you just said. Also, I'm not writing a sociological study. I am just saying "alpha", and "sigma/ beta" to make a distinction among kids, with a term that people use. So, even if the basis was wrong, the terms are used and we can't deny their existence. The guy that wants to be "alpha male" may be very well pursuing a myth. sure. unfortunately, he's still behaving like that: punching the other kids (to whom he may be categorizing as "sigma/ beta male" even if it were not using the words) for not being male enough. Exercising their desire for a hierarchy. Based on a myth, yes.

There's a quote about Bell Hooks that says... something something. I won't use it. Maybe the context is not entirely right.

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