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[-] danielbln@lemmy.world 77 points 2 years ago

I think burkinis are dumb, personally, but I don't give a damn what people wear. This is just typical ingroup-outgroup postering fueled by a proto fascist government, standard stuff really. Also, hygiene? Bro, it's the ocean, a layer of clothing extra ain't gonna make a difference.

[-] CoachDom 21 points 2 years ago

Saying burkinis are dumb is a really dumb thing to say.

For some bucket hats are dumb, but some people wear them. Not your place to judge. Also, it allows people of certain believes to have an equal access to commodities like going to a beach and go for a swim in a public.

In this regards, I would say, they are pretty smart.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago

Burkinis are absolutely a human horror that contradict every advamcement of women emancipation. They are the symbol of a society of apartheid in which women have fewer rights than men. But yes, people should be allowed to wear whatever they want, including nothing if it is their choice.

[-] CoachDom 18 points 2 years ago

If somebody is forced (!) to dress in a specific way, that's wrong. But if somebody chooses (!) to wear them for religious reasons, who am I to judge that?

My point is, there is nothing inherently wrong with burkinis - the context in which some individuals are wearing them might be wrong.

I 100% agree with you, that nobody should be forced to wear something that they don't want to.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

if somebody chooses (!) to wear them for religious

Not how totalitarianism works. How many Germains chose to be nazis un the 1930s? How many Russians chose to be communists in the 1950s? Totalitarian is a force that negates individual choice with a set of rules, anathemas and violence, with the ultimate objectve of a uniform society where everybody adheres to the exact same ideology. Burkinis are one of the tools used to enforce said ideology.

[-] emptyother@programming.dev 8 points 2 years ago

It isnt really a choice if the other option is being sent to prison.

[-] CoachDom 7 points 2 years ago

I think you took it too far.

I won't agree with you, and I don't think there is anything positive you want to share.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

You're right. Nothing positive to say about totalitarianism.

[-] eltimablo@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Are you being unyieldingly obtuse on purpose or are you actually this fucking stupid?

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

That's where I block you mate

[-] eltimablo@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Oh so you are actually this fucking stupid. Got it.

[-] eltimablo@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Being a Nazi and wearing a specific kind of bathing suit are two wildly different levels of social impact. Please argue in good faith next time.

[-] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

OK, see you on the beach with your Nazi uniform, we'll continue this conversationthrn

[-] eltimablo@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

TIL believing in a woman's freedom to choose her swimwear makes me a Nazi.

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