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[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 month ago

It would be very odd if the US or Israel did it, because this started when Iran wanted to stop communications among citizens who were protesting the government.

TL;DR, yes. It was Iran. It began before the attacks on Iran (back when it was Iran attacking its own people)

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago

It began before the attacks on Iran

Not true. Iranian people have been attacked by murderous US+EU sanctions killing tens of thousands of them every year for decades now. The protests were literally engineered by the US as a form of justification for the war, look at Iranian Rial exchange prices on the months before the protests. Hell, Trump literally admit a few days ago to sending weapons to the "protestors".

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 11 points 1 month ago

Iran's government has done plenty to deserve those sanctions. War is wrong no matter which side does it, and Iran is very guilty.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wish you and your family never have to go through the "deserved sanctions" of the USA and EU, which together murder half a million people yearly since 1975 per latest medical research. I'm sure you don't believe US citizens should starve to death for the actions of their government.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

saddly nobody has found a better option. Iran has had particularly evil leaders for decades. (Why is interesting history itself - but not relavant to today)

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

saddly nobody has found a better option

I guess all Yanks should be starved for choosing the wrong president? Or is that something you reserve to nonwhites?

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Or you can make war and kill innocents. Or you can turn your back and watch them kill innocents.

there are other variations, but I have yet to see an option that isn't awful.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You didn't respond: would you enact starvation on Yanks to push for regime change?

The people enacting these sanctions, i.e. US government, are as of today explicitly talking about eliminating a civilization, the literal definition of genocide.

Why are you defending genocide?

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

Respond! Why are you defending genocidal maniacs and their genocidal methods?

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

I don't have a choice. Either you defend Iran for funding everyone who wants to kill the Jews, or you defend the US and Israel for attacking Iran. There is no middle ground, either way you are defending genocidal maniacs. I hate both options.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

Israel are the ones bombing mosques in Iran, not backwards. Iran is not engaging in genocide and calling everything a genocide is a form of genocide denialism.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 month ago

Sure, and Iran isn't under a regime now, right? They shut down the internet because they didn't like what was said over it.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago

"Under a regime" lmao you should read a bit

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 month ago

Read what, only the news sources that don't talk about Iran's deeds, or all the other ones?

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Regime" literally means "government", it's just a propaganda word to make it sound scary. You could perfectly correctly speak of the "American regime" imprisoning ethnic minorities or the "German regime" forbidding military-aged men from leaving the country without permission, the fact that you unironically use "regime in Iran" as if it were something intrinsically negative proves that your whole understanding of this is vibes-based. If you care about Iranians, riot in your EU/US homeland to destroy the economic sanctions, which MURDER HALF A MILLION people YEARLY over the globe since 1975 per the latest The Lancet publications.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 month ago

Bla bla, don't try to "potato tomato" me, you know well what a regime is or you wouldn't be upset at me calling it that. Funny that you are more worried about the economic sanctions, and not the repression, incarceration and execution of protesters... go spread your propaganda elsewhere.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

Funny that you are more worried about the economic sanctions, and not the repression, incarceration and execution of protesters

By highest measures some thousands of protestors died. By modest estimates, HALF A MILLION murders yearly by economic sanctions. You're literally defending mass murder on incomparable scales.

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