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[-] manxu@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

You don't need my stamp of approval, but you definitely don't sound like a bot.

I think the current situation in the Middle East, compared to two years ago, very clearly shows that the two parties are not in any way comparable as you claim. You seem to pick both reacting wrong to the same situation (the Gaza conflict/Palestinian genocide) as proof that they are the same and I find that claim disingenuous.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Really? So democratic presidents don't wage war in the Middle East?

They also weren't just "reacting wrong to a situation." They (both Republicans and Democrats) have caused this situation. Who was it who said, "If Israel did not exist, the United States would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region?"

There's been a near-complete bipartisan consensus on conquering the Middle East since at least Bush. Obama had every opportunity to withdraw and chose instead to double down, as well as orchestrating regime change in Libya. Everyone's also been quietly bombing Yemen for decades.

The difference between them is mostly how concerned they are with legality and propriety. But both are committed to the imperial project of conquering the Middle East. Bipartisan support for arms to Israel to conquer Palestine (and Lebanon) The overthrow of governments in Libya and Syria. Direct invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. It's simply untrue to claim that this project started under Trump. Of course, Trump has mostly forgone the usual pretense of inventing pretexts for the aggression and is much more mask off about everything. But the overall goal is the same, Republicans are just dumber and more brazen about persuing it.

Those bases aren't just there because of Trump.

[-] manxu@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

If you can't see the moral difference between starting a war and not ending if fast enough for your liking, that is probably your moral failing and not that of my logic.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If you can't see the fact that the Democrats have also started wars in the Middle East, that's probably a failing of your knowledge of history and current events and not of my logic.

Have you heard of Libya?

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