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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago

Not doing much to stop it is a weird way of saying actively helping it.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 days ago

I see you too are actively helping it then. It's your own words!

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago

Yeah buddy I wasn't saying not actively working against it was helping it. I meant literally helping it. That Administration was actively arming the Israelis and aiding in the genocide. Super weird that you didn't know that.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ok then tell me this, did Bibi like Biden? Did he want Biden to win? Did he think Biden let him do all he wanted? What did Biden say about Bibi in return?

Then you can look at things like Republicans voting to force continued sales of weapons

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/us/politics/house-bill-reverse-israel-arms-pause.html

Meanwhile; https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5429072-sanders-resolution-fails-israel-military/

Tell me what Biden could've done that wouldn't amount to starting a war?

You're such a ghoul, actively helping people like Musk and Miller and ensuring Trump won't put up obstacles for Israel murdering people in Lebanon and Iran. Because it's more important to you that people get martyred against their will for your personal ideological purity. You knew the genocide would get worse if Trump won and you decided that would be better

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Its illegal to send weapons or money to a country that is committing genocide. Biden could have simply said he cannot legally support Israel in any way and then just not. Instead Biden chose to lie for Israel aboiut 40 beheaded babies and provide unlimited diplomatic support, going so far as to bomb Yemen for resisting.

Democratic leadership knew this would decrease turnout, they prioritized unlimited support for Israel over winning the election.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ok then if you're right why was Netanyahu mad at Biden? Why did he want Trump to win? Because there's no such thing as unlimited support and then wanting to remove the person you're getting unlimited support from

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Do you understand that a lot of politics is theater? You have to watch what people actually do, not what they pretend.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ok so then why are you refusing to look at what people actually did?

Edit: Trump has been pushing for ethnic cleansing so he could have waterfront casinos and you guys love him

You're all a bunch of traitors

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I think because your definition of "what people actually did" and mine differs a lot. Either that or we are talking past each other.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, your crowd decided to help Republicans guarantee more people got killed and tortured.

But you're pretending you have no responsibility for the consequences of your actions because you're such an ideologically pure idealist

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Because Biden's base was less pro-genocide, so no matter what Biden himself did, strategically the republicans would always be a safer bet.

There was no level of support the dems could offer that would have caused Netanyahu to support them over the republicans.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Who gives a fuck! You ghouls care more about your fucking parasocial kayfabe character drama than the lives of millions of people

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You call it kayfabe and call me a ghoul and then you're choosing to help Republicans hurt billions

That makes you a monster

Edit: you saw what project 2025 would do and decided to help people like Musk, Miller, Bannon and Trump, so that they could escalate the suffering, because YOU WANTED IT, because you prefer seeing people die if it means USA loses status, you'll rather see people martyred then fed by aid from a source you find offensive

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Lol. At least try to be consistent

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

I am consistent in calling you out for selectively doing whatever helps Republicans

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Its illegal to send weapons or money to a country that is committing genocide.

Cool. What’s the source, please?

Also, does it work when we’re the one doing it? And is it strictly genocide or is it general war criming.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago

Here's a list of domestic laws that were violated, to say nothing of international law:

The Foreign Assistance Act, which forbids the provision of assistance to a government which “engages in a consistent pattern of gross violations of internationally recognized human rights.”

Arms Export Control Act, which says countries that receive U.S. military aid can only use weapons for legitimate self-defense and internal security. Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza goes way beyond self-defense and internal security.

The U.S. War Crimes Act, which forbids grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, including wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, and unlawful deportation or transfer, perpetrated by the Israeli Occupying Forces.

The Leahy Law, which prohibits the U.S. Government from using funds for assistance to units of foreign security forces where there is credible information implicating that unit in the commission of gross violations of human rights.

The Genocide Convention Implementation Act, which was enacted to implement U.S. obligations under the Genocide Convention, provides for criminal penalties for individuals who commit or incite others to commit genocide

https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/us-weapons-to-israel

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Pretty trivially easy question. Biden could have done a lot of things -- vetoed funding and stopped running interference for Israel in the UN. And he could have called it a genocide and illegal on the world stage. Biden refused to call it a genocide. He could have called for an international force to stop the killing. He also flew recon missions for the Israelis with US drones over Gaza didnt he.

And "starting a war"? with who, Israel? Are you stupid? That war would last 5 minutes. Biden took massive amounts of money from AIPAC his entire career, and called himself a zionist all the time. Your pretending he had no choice and was simply a victim of circumstance is pure lies. He was massively bribed. A corrupt peice of shit genocide supporter. He would absolutely lose his case and be imprisoned if the US had done the right thing and signed onto the ICC. He belongs in an orange jumpsuit, sharing a cell with trump.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you're 100% right why did Netanyahu want to get rid of him?

Why has NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU responded to this question with anything but insults?

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Dont look at words, look at actions.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 days ago

Biden Administration Bypassed Congress on Weapons Sale to Israel

To start with, he could have, uh, not bypassed congress on weapons sales to Israel.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

It's certainly telling what he was willing to bypass congress to do after he couldn't bypass congress for the agenda he ran on.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Ok then tell me this, did Bibi like Biden?

Who gives a fuck! You ghouls care more about your fucking parasocial kayfabe character drama than the lives of millions of people

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

Ok so then if you're the one who cares so much about those millions, why are you actively helping the people who are trying to make their lives worse?

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