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[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Atheism is a religious stance, and is practiced like one. When it's used to harm non-believers especially it's really easy to see this.

I wouldn't give Christians or any other religion a pass on this, so I'm not giving Atheists one either.

[-] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

Good thing your opinion means jack shit, because your basis is fundamentally flawed and incorrect.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Do you think it shows weakness to be polite to those you disagree with? I think it works better to approach people with respect if I want them to consider what I'm saying. It already feels like an attack when someone says you're wrong, and I don't want to harden minds against what I think is right.

I'm not always good at it, and I have spoken to people harshly often. It never produced anything but hard feelings on their part. I think it can be satisfying to be mean, and I was looking for an excuse to act in a way that's less moral without feeling bad about myself. I think even if I was right, I usually didn't need to be mean about it.

I think that it's likely nothing I'm doing on this website is important enough to justify me being unkind about it.

[-] EatMyPixelDust 7 points 3 weeks ago

Wrong. Atheism is the rejection of religion.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Almost every religion has a tenant of the rejection of every other religion, and then goes on to persecute the other ones believers.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... it might be a duck.

[-] EatMyPixelDust 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That doesn't make atheism a religion, nor does atheism call for the persecution of anyone. Your logic is flawed and your argument is factually incorrect.

All ducks have legs, but not all birds with legs are ducks.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

A muscovy duck isn't a duck. Technically.

But if someone complains about all the misbehaving ducks in the pond and your defense for your duck's musbehaviour is "technically not a duck!" you're not really saying anything of worth.

[-] EatMyPixelDust 1 points 2 weeks ago

I can only infer from your statement that "Muscovy ducks aren't technically ducks" which you've followed up by stating "anyone who says technically not a duck isn't saying anything worthwhile", means you're telling me what you're saying isn't anything of worth.

Well, thanks, we already established that.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Why would I think this was worthwhile? You "Um Actually"-ed my post about the moral behavior of atheists who get religious about atheism.

This was only ever a long shot at best.

[-] EatMyPixelDust 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ah, but that wasn't what you originally said:

Atheism is a religious stance, and is practiced like one.

Don't try to change your argument when it gets proven wrong.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

My man, it's a stance on a theological issue. You don't want to admit that, and I'm not going to force you. What does going "Yah-huh / Nuh-uh" back and forth forever do for anyone?

[-] EatMyPixelDust 1 points 1 week ago

What does trying to pretend you said something different to what you actually said do except make you look like the liar you are?

[-] embed_me@programming.dev 7 points 3 weeks ago

Get back to me when there are "discussion rooms" for practising atheists in public spaces 😆

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

If it's sauce for the goose, it's sauce for the gander. Whatever your belief of lack of it, I want to see you respected and treated well.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, it's not.

Not watching football isn't a "football stance".

Not eating pork chops isn't a "pork chop stance".

Not drinking jagermeister isn't a "jagermeister stance".

Not reading Spider-Man comics isn't a "Spider-Man stance".

Not being religious isn't a "religious stance".

Not doing something isn't a stance on that something, that's goofy

[-] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

d'awww. Look who thinks they know stuff

So cute

[-] MrSmith@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks.

If whatever you believe means you feel you have the right to be unkind to people who believe otherwise, it's problematic. Even if you want to hold onto a different definition of whatever it is you believe, if you use it as an excuse to be unkind it's still a problem. It's not the label that's the problem, it's the behavior.

If you end up acting just like them, why should anyone believe you're any different?

Very "it's not a warcrime if it's not wartime" energy.

[-] MrSmith@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds something that a nazi would say.

It's the same tolerance paradox. I don't have to be kind if your "beliefs" create suffering.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm honored that you conceded the argument, if not gracefully.

[-] MrSmith@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Text comprehension isn't your strongest side, is it? But then again, religion has been suppressing education for centuries, so it makes sense.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Though obviously I'd prefer a more civil exchange of ideas I can't deny the ego boost of seeing someone give up. Once it's down to name calling, it means you gave up on arguing your point.

When people have the faith in their ideas to agree to disagree, they don't need to resort to name calling. People feel threatened and lash out. It's understandable.

[-] MrSmith@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Tone policing wen you're out of arguments, classic. Fuck your religion.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's not tone, it's absence of content. Once you need to make it about me, it means you've given up on discussing what I said. What's true is true no matter who says it, even if you were right about everything you said it wouldn't change a single thing.

Though if you could be polite too that'd be stellar. Manners and consideration are not weakness.

[-] MrSmith@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Religion is cancer" isn't an invitation for a discussion. You said some nonsense about atheism being a religion - I'm not discussing that either, because that's all it is - nonsense.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You stopped discussing things several posts ago, I noticed. I told you that you did so. Why are you repeating to me what I said to you over my last 2 replies as if it's news?! I've been snarkily complaining about it. It's not news!

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