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French President Emmanuel Macron on Thursday said it would be unrealistic to launch a military operation to force open the Strait of Hormuz after US President Donald Trump challenged allies to work towards reopening it. In unusually strong criticism, Macron accused Trump of constantly contradicting himself on the Iran war and of undermining faith in the NATO military alliance.

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[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

Europe should get together with Russia and China to negotiate a peace deal. Russia could agree to store and process Iran's enriched uranium, something which it has already suggested. The uranium could be given to Iran as needed for peaceful purposes. In return, Europe would end all sanctions. The strait of Hormuz would be opened as soon as the US and Israel stop bombing Iran. If Iran agrees to such a deal, Trump might be willing to follow since there would be no more uranium to bomb and Europe, Russia, and China have left him isolated.

[-] mzesumzira@leminal.space 18 points 2 weeks ago

Where would that leave Ukraine?

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

This is what Europe should propose to Putin. Russia will withdraw from all land it seized from Ukraine after the 2022 invasion. NATO would be dissolved and replaced with a European alliance. Ukraine and Canada would be permitted to join but not the US. All sanctions against Russia will be lifted. Russia will not be required to pay reparations. If Putin doesn't accept the proposal, the UK and France would send troops to Ukraine.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

You're talking about possible escalation in Ukraine and making further enemies, via USA exclusion. Not a great outcome.unless everyone goes along with it. Which they won't.

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

What further enemies? Trump is already angry at NATO. Escalation might be necessary. Can Ukraine win a war of attrition against Russia with its greater manpower?

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Trump is angry ar NATO? Let’s see how angry when they unilaterally try to undermine him and exclude him. He’s already been threatening Greenland. Do you think their new friend Russia will help?

They are treading a fine line of moving away from the USA without making it an enemy or breaking treaties.

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

Europe has to become independent of Trump. Europe is like a wife who husband abuses her but is afraid to leave because she doesn't think she can survive on her own. Europe can survive without Trump. Europe cannot do anything to help Greenland if the US invades it. The reason is that Greenland is very close to the US unless Russia and China help, which is very possible. Russia and China do not want the US to control Greenland.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, it's exactly like a domestic violence situation, but only because trump is an abusive husband and doesn't practice statecraft. Europe is waking up to the new reality. I don't think Americans are yet, as they are more insulat but it's coming.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

US is still the biggest mercenary out there. Excluding it only guarantees it's move to the other side.

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

What other side is there? If Europe, Russia, and China reach a deal with Iran, Trump would feel isolated if he doesn't join. Also, what would be the purpose for him to continue fighting?

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

If Russia doesn't reach a deal.

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

What kind of deal? Russia is already an ally of Iran. However, if Europe is involved, Europe can lift its sanctions.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Russian deal with Europe.

[-] ThetaDecay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

None of that fulfills Trump's obligations to the oil industry to destabilize the world order and keep a risk premium in oil.

Remember, he went begging to the US oil execs for campaign cash, promised they'd get what they wanted. Iran, the blocking of green energy projects, the opening of the rest of Gulf of Mexico to drilling, and Venezuela and more are all paying back that obligation.

[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

That's the reason Europe, Russia, and China should get together and make a deal without the US. Trump doesn't just want to prevent Iran from building a nuclear bomb but wants to control Iran just as he's controlling Venezuela.

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