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[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well it's way less than half that voted against trump. The percentage of eligible voters that actually vote in the U.S. is pathetic.

But yes, sucks for those that voted against it. But their (much lesser) culpability is not not striking, protesting, campaigning, etc. If they're doing all that, then I'm sure they're just as pissed off at the rest of Americans so they wouldn't mind my generalization.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The percentage of eligible voters that actually vote in the U.S. is pathetic.

65.3% of voters voted in 2024. Thats higher than the UK or Ireland, and its not even a national holiday to do it. Its close to par with Canada.

So I call BS on your post.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And it's pathetic in those places too. But when it's a choice of trump or a less insane option, that 35% of Americans who didn't bother to vote is a whole lot of idiots who are part of the problem.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I see you arent going after the dems who ran a ridiculously bad campaign. why not?

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

They ran what they ran. I honestly don't know if they'd had a further left platform if they'd have lost more centrists than gained leftist votes in the places that mattered. But they were still obviously the far better choice, so I still hold any American who didn't vote for them responsible for trump and his actions.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They ran what they ran.

OK? and people voted how they voted. If you're not going to tie campaigns to outcomes then you arent talking about reality, just your own feelings.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

My point is, even if the Dems ran a crappy election, they were a much better choice than Trump. And anyone who doesn't see that is a fool. I don't see why Americans need to be coddled to get up off their asses and vote for the better choice. Just don't be idiots, already. Or else you are responsible for not stopping trump.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

right, you dont care what the dems stand for as long as they are .001% better than genocidal fascism. And you're not willing to lift a finger to demand better of the dems who are the only party we have a snowballs chance in hell of fixing. You'll take whatever you're given, like a dog eating scraps off the floor.

On that, we agree.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Hardly. You should work in the primaries, letter writing, grass roots etc. do that now. But when it comes to the election, if you don't vote effectively against maga, you are supporting them, and the result is your fault.
It's really quite simple. I'm not sure how it's not obvious to everyone.
I guess if you really think trump is only .001% worse, then you are blinded by irrationalities?

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

letter writing, grass roots etc

ah yes. "sternly worded" letters are whats needed, obviously. Who could possibly argue with such a powerful vision. You win this one CannonFodder.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yes. Letter writing. That's how politics works (when functional). It conveys that the electorate cares enough about a policy to write the letter. Politicians actually do pay attention this to some degree.

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