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submitted 5 months ago by bmebenji to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Hi there, I’m looking to get into self-hosting for privacy reasons and I wanted to ask y’all: how inadvisable is it to utilize an ISP-owned router/modem? I feel like they’re able to track everything I do online with their more than likely integrated spyware.

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[-] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 5 months ago

The only thing they can realistically harcode is the DNS server their router's DHCP provides.

Just configure devices to not use that setting, also use DoH or DoT (which you should do anyway, not just to circumvent your router's settings).

[-] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago

I haven’t used such a router in decades, I just know from doing IT support at friends homes. These people have no clue how to get around these DNS filters.

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

These people have no clue how to get around these DNS filters.

But not thanks to the virtue of some effective blocking but just a lack of knowledge of the average user...

I have used several of those cheap routers over the years. And they simply can't block you from using encrypted DNS (unless they want to create giant blocklists and want to play wack-a-mole with DNS servers...).

So all they usually do is very low tech like ignoring the DNS you set in the router configuration and reroute it (or not providing such configuration in the first place). But they can effectively ony do so with unencrypted DNS.

With encrypted DNS they could at best try to block the default port used by DNSoverTLS but that still leaves DoH. And they can't block that because it's just regular encrypted HTTPS traffic (with the DNS quesry inside).

Iirc even Windows allows easy configuration of DoH nowadays (and for much longer if you were ready to edit the registry) where you can simply chose between unencrypted, DoH only or encryption preferred if available.

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