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[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The observed baseline for libs on reddit is defending obama-drone as if it's a left wing position because the republicans are 'worse', with lots of unexamined western chauvinism piled on top, and hostile debate-me-debate-me misogyny if you push back on it.

Obama was president when NATO returned the slave trade to Libya- to quote his secretary of state Hillary Clinton: "we came, we saw, he died". I'm sure you have all sorts of state-approved positions on Americas state enemies, but that's the historical reality you're whitewashing.

[-] ToastedPlanet 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'll admit my knowledge on US involvement in Libya is lacking. I was a junior in high school at the time and I don't remember hearing much about it. I'll have to read up on it if I'm going to debate it with you. At a glance, it looks Obama would agree with you. Reestablishing the slave trade in Libya doesn't seem to be the outcome he was hoping for. edit: typo

https://www.newsweek.com/obama-responsible-libyan-slave-trade-730875

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

CW: Worst mistake?

Obama: Probably failing to plan for the day after, what I think was the right thing to do, in intervening in Libya.

From the article you just posted, I clicked the link to read what he actually said, and I read it as he expressed regret for not intervening more!

It's like criminals expressing regret for getting caught.

[-] ToastedPlanet 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I think he didn't want to leave Libya in the mess it was in. That's my assessment at a glance.

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Feel free to ignore what he actually said. My assessment is he feels bad because it made him look bad politically.

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