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might be a form of Jevons Paradox
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Everything bad people said about web apps 20+ years ago has proved true.
It's like, great, now we have consistent cross-platform software. But it's all bloated, slow, and only "consistent" with itself (if even). The world raced to the bottom, and here we are. Everything is bound to lowest-common-denominator tech. Everything has all the disadvantages of client-server architecture even when it all runs (or should run) locally.
It is completely fucking insane how long I have to wait for lists to populate with data that could already be in memory.
But at least we're not stuck with Windows-only admin consoles anymore, so that's nice.
All the advances in hardware performance have been used to make it faster (more to the point, "cheaper") to develop software, not faster to run it.
I'm dreading when poorly optimized vibe coding works it's way into mainstream software and create a glut of technical debt. Performance gonna plummet the next 5 years just wait.
Already happening with Windows. Also supposedly with Nvidia GPU drivers, with some AMD execs pushing for the same now
Let me assure you this is already happening.
And that us poors still on limited bandwidth plans get charged for going over our monthly quotas because everything has to be streamed or loaded from the cloud instead of installed (or at least cached) locally.
Bloated electron apps are what makes Linux on desktop viable today at all, but you guys aren't ready for that conversation.
Yes, in that the existence of bloated electron apps tends to cause web apps to be properly maintained, as a side effect.
But thankfully, we don't actually have to use the Electron version, to benefit.
Unless it's Teams apparently, that's the last Electron app I want to install.
I can only think of a couple Electron apps I use, and none that are important or frequently used.
Uhhh like what?
Note, I don't know how comprehensive this wiki list is, just quick research
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_using_Electron
From those, I'm only currently using a handful.
balenaEtcher, Discord, Synergy, and Obsidian
The viability of linux isn't dependent on them though
Agreed. I wasn't the one that claimed that
It's dependant on being able to run everything anyone could possibly need. "I don't use it, therfore it is not essential" is the kind of approach that's always made it niche.
Of course Adobe is still missing.
My point was that a list of programs doesn't inherently determine whether or not Linux is a viable operating system, its viability varies based on each users workflow.
Spotify, Steam
Balena Etcher is a software crime though.
Steam UI uses chromium embedded framework which saves 50% of the ram and startup time.
What’s wrong with balena etcher?
It’s hundreds of megabytes for something that unetbootin, image writer, and others do in a couple of MBs.
Oh dang, is that the overheard of the software framework it uses? I think that’s what this thread was about but I can’t remember.
Yes, it’s built with electron. It’s a fancy web page and browser packaged as an app.
If only bad people weren't the ones who said it, maybe we would have listened 😔
I almost started a little rant about Ignaz Semmelweis before I got the joke. :P
Webapps are in general badly written and inefficient.