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submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Tipping 'nudges' are now popping up on DoorDash. If you don't leave a gratuity, you'll hear about it.::DoorDash is the latest delivery service to nudge customers who don't tip. It shows how intrusive tip requests are, and how important tips are to gig workers.

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.ml 118 points 1 year ago
  • Ban tipping as a substitute for min wage.
  • Ban tipping companies,
  • Allow tipping people.

Until then, tip people with cash.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

Good luck with the logistics of that. Just ban tipping. It's bad for business, bad for individuals (in the long run), and a highly discriminatory practice.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Generally agree, but if you use an app that only exists because of tipping being expected like food devliery apps, then if you don't put down a tip then no one is going to pick up your order. All they will see is a terrible pay for an order.

[-] realharo@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At that point, that's not a tip, that's a bid in a market. Maybe they should just rename the terms like a trading app.

[-] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 9 points 1 year ago

In my country it is not expected to tip. Not in restaurants and not in delivery. Just pay your fucking employees. It's not that hard.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

i know, that doesn't matter though does it, if you engage with a gig economy it doesn't matter what the tipping system is in your country. your food order is essentially a job that anyone can choose to pick up or not pick up, and because the payment rates are so low from uber and the like they will only take orders with good tips.

so basically, if you don't want to tip, don't engage with gig economy companies. but if you do engage with gig economy companies you have to tip.

[-] greavous@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They can choose to pick up a job or not. I can choose whether I want to pay extra because the employer doesn't want to pay them fairly. Just because the driver is exploited by their employer doesn't mean that has to roll down to me.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What I'm trying to tell you, is that if you don't tip, your order won't get picked up. or on some platforms, the drivers will be forced to pick up because their reject rate is too high, so essentially by not tipping, but still engaging with the platform, you are costing the gig workers money.

it's pretty simple, if you don't want to tip, don't use these platforms, which is good it shows a strong message that you don't want these kind of platforms to exist. but if you do use these platforms, and you dont' tip. then you are just taking advantage of the gig workers like the companies are. you might think that the companies should give the gig workers more money, but they won't, and you are enabling them to not do that.

[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[-] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 5 points 1 year ago

At that point it's not a tip it's a delivery charge.. just call it what it is.

But they won't because then they'd have to pay tax.. Although the taxman is going to notice sooner or later anyway..

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