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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Menachem@midwest.social to c/main@midwest.social

Has anyone else noticed how prevalent Hexbear posters have suddenly become? Maybe sometime last week I noticed nearly every political post had at least one long thread of Hexbear users that do nothing but repeat CCP talking points while waving anyway anything even remotely reliable as Western propaganda. That or getting all excited about trolled libs. The way they tell it, you'd think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people.

Not to mention, their info on the Fediverse observer is either straight up wrong or there's some serious botting going on. According to that, the instance is less than a month old, yet somehow they already have one of the largest, most active userbases, along with far and away the most comments of any instance.

Seems to me like Lemmygrad on steroids. Considering we defederated from them, seems like a no-brainer to block Hexbear as well.

So glad this thread could become such a perfect microcosm of why we need to defederate.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just noticed them today when a post from their community reached my front page. They called my server, lemm.ee, which is just a neutral general Lemmy instance, a racist neo lib instance and should be defederated. No idea what's up with them but I did notice them show up out of nowhere.

edit: oh this thread definitely convinces me they're a toxic as hell lemmygrad 2.0. Luckily there's a Lemmy PR that allows instance blocking. It's just being tested right now and then will be merged.

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 100 points 1 year ago

They called my server, lemm.ee, which is just a neutral general Lemmy instance, a racist neo lib instance and should be defederated.

Lmao new site tagline dropped

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

10 upvotes in 10 mins have to be botted or something, this whole instance is sus

[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We have a community that has been together for years. We actually care about each other, We love supporting each other whenever possible and We are a real community.

None of the shitlib reddit-logo wannabe instances will ever understand.

Sucks to suck.

penguin-dance

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah ngl the whole "we" thing is weird to me. I have never cared about any internet community lol.

[-] macabrett@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

This is literally a thread addressing our specific community. What are we supposed to do, refuse to reference that community?

[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Like I said you would not understand.

I told you all that so you all quit accusing us of post/stat manipulation.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Was there a big migration push recently? I don't think it's manip anymore, there's clear organic traffic here that's linking me pig shit.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

We recently federated with the broader lemmyverse Idk what its called, I've just been posting here for 3 years using the same link on my bookmark, and when I clicked it today here I am replying to you

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

when does the war on lemmygrad begin

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Why would we go to war against lemmygrad?

[-] aaro@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

lemmygrad are our comrades heart-sickle

we personally prefer to keep a pan-leftist policy but an enemy of the bourgeoise is a comrade of ours

[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Why would you make a post about hexbear when you clearly don't know the first thing about us? We are one of the oldest and most active lemmys and our whole bit is left unity...

[-] CriticalResist8@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

>User tried to use Start Shit!
>It wasn't very effective...

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

why would we war with an instance we broadly like? we have an anti-sectarian rule when it comes to other leftists.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

I've gotta respect the riffs, at least

[-] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Did you just call me a manip?

walter-breakdown

[-] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

That's just a pokemon quagsire-pog-crusty squirtle-jam

[-] Odo@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

lmao I'm sorry about the pig shit, you seem like a cool person from your other replies.

[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

yes, everyone is so alienated and atomized, broken down into monads so that no community can exist, because communities existing means they will collectively organize to defend themselves. they don't want you to have a community, because then you'd be harder to exploit

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

are u trying to unionize internet communties

[-] BlueMagaChud@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

not really, I don't think internet communities are "means of production". I would like to dispel false consciousness, highlight class collaboration, and foster class consciousness

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because honestly very very few online communities are like this one. This community has given each other hours and hours of entertainment, support, and knowledge far beyond anything I've seen before.

I've been here for three years and I've seen people get jobs because of training resources and answers provided by other users. People who were 'leftish' but didn't have library or academic access who were given links to free courses, books, and basically a whole leftist education they couldn't have gotten otherwise. People have started reading groups for learning more and discussion. Gaming and movie watching groups for people who are isolated or just want to hang out digitally with comrades.

People have helped organise for various good causes and trans comrades have been given advice and help to find the medical supplies they need when living in places it would otherwise be impossible. The mutual aid that's happened here has gotten people off the streets, helped unhoused people, paid for meals people otherwise would have had to skip, and kept people's electricity on until payday.

I'm lucky enough not to have needed any of those things, but someone still sent me codes for a couple of video games I was curious about just because I mentioned I was stressed out one month and looking for something new to play. I could have bought them myself, but was a lovely gesture so I thanked them and threw the same amount I would have spent towards mutual aid.

Yeah, there's a whole lot of shit posting, some struggle sessions, and occasional assholery too. But there's a reason so many people are so active here on Hexbear. It's special.

So talk shit, defederate, or maybe approach in good faith without your presumptions. Whatever you choose, we'll be just fine.

[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago

maybe we're just better at posting than you

[-] Grimble@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

Is there a bot to explain your 0 upvotes?

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

-person who just complained about other people getting upvotes

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That absolutely was not what my comment was about. Is your entire instance this toxic as this thread?

[-] milistanaccount09@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago

I've actually never felt unwelcome or not wanted in hexbear. Probably because I engage in posts there in good faith and disagree politely.

[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

this is a thread complaining about us, of course we're not gonna be particularly nice

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The defederation PR merge cannot come soon enough

[-] riseuppikmin@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

This is truly the death of the marketplace of ideas

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Afraid to debate us in the marketplace of ideas expert-shapiro

[-] Bakzik@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Now said it without crying, lib.

tito-laugh

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

che-smile there can be no other explanation lol

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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

You: "another more active community than mine exists? No it can't be, that's impossible! It must be some trick, or foul magic!"

Us: anarchist-occult

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

we see a good take, we hit the bear. we see a bad take, we reply. it's just site culture as we don't have downvotes.

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