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[-] hector@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

The president does not have the authority, and the executive branch does not have the authority, to deport citizens. Now naturalized they say they do because democrats and republicans decided to let them do that, because Israel, because of course it was about israel.

I feel like that's unconstitutional though, that it's a violation of separation of powers if nothing else, and at a minimum a trial by jury would need to decide deportation or no for a naturalized citizen.

The president, and his appointees, should not be targeting civilians, not for for criticizing them, not for anything directly like this, it's asymmetric, the powerful abusing people that can't fight back, in this case for using rights enshrined in the highest law of the land.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

As if not being allowed to do shit has stopped them from doing it anyways.

What's the amendment in the constitution about lack of papers not being suitable evidence for deportation? That hasn't stopped a god damned thing. First amendment? No trump just sues everyone and they all just accept it.

Rules don't mean shit if no one holds the ones ignoring them accountablep

[-] msfroh@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

Your first two sentences contradict each other.

They don't have the authority to deport citizens, but they do have the authority to deport naturalized (something)?

Naturalized what? Naturalization is the process of becoming a citizen. Do they have the authority to deport citizens or not?

[-] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago

They've passed laws the past ten or so years allowing the executive to strip naturalized citizens, people from other countries that were granted citizenship, of their citizenship and deport them. Basically all because Israel as always. This administration is the only one to try and use those new authorities as I understand it.

The UK passed laws like this first, allowing them to strip citizenship and deport people to places they've never been, and rendering people stateless, well before the tories time in office too, 14 years that ended idk a year or two back.

Natural born citizens they have no authority over, until the scotus finds them an end run around the 14th at least, hard to see how they could but who knows at this point.

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