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I don't know how Atheists do it
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The atheists said.
John "strawman" atheist said it?
The Atheistic belief that when you die, there's nothing. So if you suffer in this life, there's no justice. No reprieve. No hope.
Beta Ray Bill says it best
If there is no god, then how do you define "good"
My dude you need a philosophy class, not religion.
The same as I would define it if there was a god. Minimising suffering across all beings who can suffer across all time and space, and keeping that minimized, maximising pleasure across all beings who can feel pleasure across all time and space. At least, that's my personal definition. Others will have other definitions.
Things have value whether they last forever or not. Don't buy into the lie that what happens here doesn't matter.
I don't see how they do
Is a song that you might hear at a concert of less value because you may never hear it again?
A song you hear at a concert has no value
Why not? Does a song I listen to on my computer have value?
No
What does have value, according to you?
That which is eternal. Matthew 6:19-21
Why does that verse bind me? I don't accept that as the only reason to value anything.
Why not?
Music is only temporary
So?
Is the love you have for your significant other worthless then? Is going abroad to experience new things worthless?
In the long term, yes.
I don't share this position at all. Life is all about experiencing things, things that you can repeat, things that are once-in-a-lifetime and things that will stay with you.
You are straw manning again. Death being the end makes zero difference as far as hope and justice go. Arguably it drives you further to accomplish those in life rather than just rolling over and waiting for some being to turn off your lights.
You will never accomplish them.