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a brilliant attempt to bothsides this invasion situation right here
No. The invading side is clearly worse. If it weren't for the invading army, there would be no war.
Forcing people to risk their lives for a piece of dirt is still evil though.
I think the calculus is different here, because it isn't just dirt. We've seen what happens to cities and civilians when Russia invades an area.
They're not defending just "dirt" they're defending THEIR CHILDREN AND NEIGHBORS.
Children and neighbors can be moved. I don't live in Ukraine, but when shit hit the fan, I was watching the news daily, while thinking about the most efficient way to pack everyone up in the car, and get the hell out. Luckily, the front line has stabilized relatively far from the western borders of UA. That's enough of a buffer between me and russia for now.
If the situation ever changes, I'm not going to wait for the bombs to fall. I'm going to try to outrun them. It would suck to loose my home, but life is worth more to me than a bunch of bricks.
wow. just wow.
Whelp.
The point goes sailing so far over your head I wonder about your last reply.
As long as it's not the bombs...
You do realize the irony of "dirt doesn't matter, it's just dirt" when you're not moving right now because....people are defending their own dirt???
Yes. I live comfortably thanks to those who fight. I'd not fight if I were them, but I would also not FORCE anyone to fight for me.
From what I gather, the vast majority in Ukraine are kinda PO'ed at the invasion and are having no problem fighting against it.
Their needs to be a term when people use the "both sides" argument in bad faith to try and deflect legitimate criticism. I guess it kind of falls under whattaboutism ironically enough "nevermind the bad things Ukraine is doing, whattabout the bad things Russia is doing?