Ladybird adopts Rust, with help from AI (ladybird.org)

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We’ve been searching for a memory-safe programming language to replace C++ in Ladybird for a while now. We previously explored Swift, but the C++ interop never quite got there, and platform support outside the Apple ecosystem was limited. Rust is a different story. The ecosystem is far more mature for systems programming, and many of our contributors already know the language. Going forward, we are rewriting parts of Ladybird in Rust.

Porting LibJS

I used Claude Code and Codex for the translation. This was human-directed, not autonomous code generation. I decided what to port, in what order, and what the Rust code should look like. It was hundreds of small prompts, steering the agents where things needed to go. After the initial translation, I ran multiple passes of adversarial review, asking different models to analyze the code for mistakes and bad patterns.

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[-] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago

Their point is that attraction doesn't entail crime or even willingness to commit crimes. Punishing someone for a thought crime is unenforceable and absurd.

[-] TomAwezome@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I wouldn't consider resident rehabilitation punishment, more of an opportunity really, but it still serves the purpose of keeping those people away from the rest of society and reintegrating them once they're fit to be around vulnerable individuals

[-] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago

You said:

Nobody should pity pedophiles, you should want them removed from society permanently. If that's controversial, so be it

(Emphasis mine)

You backpedaled after being called out, and it's particularly annoying because removing permanently can also mean extermination. But giving you grace and only interpreting it as rehabilitation (assuming the individual is deemed to no longer be a danger to others), it's still impossible to enforce until there's a crime.

[-] TomAwezome@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Someone who undergoes resident rehabilitation as a pedophile and is successfully treated results in someone who is no longer a pedophile. That permanently removes the pedophile from society.

[-] Spectrism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

You can't make someone "no longer a pedophile" any more than you can make someone "no longer gay/lesbian/bisexual/[insert any other sexual orientation]".

[-] TomAwezome@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

A sexual preference towards men, women, or nonbinary isn’t a mental illness. A sexual preference to children is. Refer to this for further explanation.

[-] Spectrism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago

Does a condition being considered a mental illness magically make it curable? Was homosexuality curable when it was still classified as a mental disorder? Not that I know of. But feel free to show me a reputable study claiming that is indeed possible to cure pedophilia or paraphilias in general.

[-] TomAwezome@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Of course not, an individual with such a disorder can be successfully treated to reduce if not fully eliminate pedophilic urges or inclinations. Medications and treatments are available to reduce sexual libido and urges in afflicted individuals, as well as to rebuild the mental pathways from pedophilic to normophilic, without altering sexual orientation. A resource to consider is the Handbook of Clinical Sexuality for Mental Health Professionals by Stephen B Levine, Candace B Rice, Stanley E Althof. For a study, as you've requested, feel free to give Changes in Sexual Arousal as Measured by Penile Plethysmography in Men with Pedophilic Sexual Interest a cursory reading.

[-] Spectrism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago

Of course your LLM response provides a study that is heavily flawed in it's methodology and has been criticised a number. of. times..

I'm not convinced, neither are most experts in this field of research.

[-] TomAwezome@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

No LLMs used here, just regular old fashioned search engines and common sense. Not that I expect that to convince you :D I wouldn't bother wasting an LLM's time on this, it's much more entertaining not to. If you feel so inclined, I'd be curious what your take on antiandrogen medications, serotonergic agents or gonadotropin-releasing hormone antagonists for treatment is, since it seems effective in the limited trials that have taken place. Of course, there should always be more thorough research into the capacity for full remission.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Reducing sex drive doesn't change who you are attracted to even if you change how penises respond, at least not from antiandrogens (my experience being with spiro+estrodial). But as far as I know, at least for sex crimes as a whole, variation in sex drive is a poor explainer of who will or will not sexually abuse. Not sure on the details of the regimens being pushed here, but it seems sorta like you want men to be forcibly transitioned (as much as a jokingly supported that as an egg, I'm actually not a fan of the idea on a mass scale)? And no clue what your suggestion for women are. All to achieve a different penis volume?

[-] Spectrism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

You have demonstrated no common sense at all and a complete lack of knowledge in your previous comments, so yeah, you won't convince me that this was not written by an LLM.

Antiandrogens (and by extension GnRH antagonists) have the bad side effect of bone loss/osteoporosis, so not really a good long term solution, and like SSRIs, they just reduce the sexual drive as a whole. I don't know where you see any effectiveness here.