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‘We’re no longer attracting top talent’: the brain drain killing American science (www.theguardian.com)

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[+] NeinStein@piefed.social 60 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

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[-] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

I’m not in academia anymore but I’m in tech, would love to move to Europe but immigration seems pretty tough

[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 13 points 4 months ago

Hi! I'm an engineer and have done it. It's of course not easy but it's totally doable. I guess my really high level advice would be:

Figure out what country(ies) you'd consider moving to (think about language stuff and your willingness to learn a new one if needed, prevalence of English, cost, climate, culture, etc)

Look for the visa requirements (very often in tech just "have a job" is enough for you and your family visa wise).

Look for jobs. Lots of places at least here in Denmark are very aware of the fact that they can get good talent leaving the US right now. My boss literally talks about it weekly. Employers will be glad to help with visas and with help moving. My employer that I moved with found us a place to live (furnished) for 3 months and paid for it, got plane tickets, got someone to help with taxes, of course did visa things, and had someone help with all the "other stuff" like drivers license transfer, understanding healthcare, etc etc

If you actually want to consider it, it's really doable. It's been such a rewarding and amazing experience for us.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

might be easier for something in demand , engineering PHD, mds, but so far people under bs/ms, since they are unlikely to have a career or experience in the field.

[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

I know a fair few people here with just good experience in their fields who have gainful employment. I don't know what the OP's "in tech" job means exactly but fine chance they could find work imo. I thought it was a LOT more gate kept than it is. My partner is a scientist and found a job, only with an irrelevant BS and good experience. I know others with the same kind of situation.

Not to say that it's easy, but it's not as impossible as I once thought

[-] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I’m a data engineer but I probably dont have enough experience to warrant being looked at by companies abroad at the moment. I’m still in junior territory on paper at least.