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Dbzero has Defederated from Feddit.org following its Governance post about the later's "Zionist Bar Problem" (lemmy.zip)

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Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. ....

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. ...

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

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[-] einkorn@feddit.org 43 points 4 days ago

[-] agentant@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago

Meanwhile Zionists perpetuate real violence on real people by the hundreds of thousands. God forbid people online be mad at them.

[-] einkorn@feddit.org 11 points 4 days ago

And what does that have to do with people removing peoples posts calling for more violence?

[-] agentant@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 days ago

The people are calling for Palestinian self-defense against the apartheid state intent on their genocide. The two aren't comparable forms of violence.

[-] einkorn@feddit.org 13 points 4 days ago

There is a difference between calling for self-defense, calling for killings and supporting Hamas killing civilians.

[-] mathemachristian 4 points 4 days ago

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gruesome-story-hannah-duston-american-colonist-whose-slaying-indians-made-her-folk-hero-180968721/

please note the similarities to pissrahelli hasbara and indigenous resistance in palestine.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

Because Palestinians have the legal right under UN law to struggle against their occupiers by any means necessary, including armed struggle, while Israel, as an occupier, has no right to “self defense.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism_as_settler_colonialism
Philosophy prof. Hans-Georg Moeller: 📺 Guilt Pride: A German Vanity Project Conquering the World

[-] einkorn@feddit.org 4 points 4 days ago

https://feddit.org/comment/11617986

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

You know that was hasbara, right? Previously:

conflation of state and people that Hamass ideology clearly makes

A Document of General Principles and Policies

by largely targeting and slaughtering civilians in their homes

That is not what happened. That is what Western media said happened.

The Intercept:

Netanyahus War on Truth

The Story Behind the New York Times October 7 Expos�

Al Jazeera: Why did Israel deploy Hannibal Directive, allowing killing of own citizens?

Electronic Intifada: How Israel killed hundreds of its own people on 7 October

If Hamas wants to dismantle Israeli oppression through activism, negotiations, and political reform great.

It has tried to do that for decades. The most recent significant attempt was Great March of Return, wherein the IDF slaughtered Gazans.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

That isn't how I'm seeing any of this.

[-] einkorn@feddit.org 13 points 4 days ago

Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Whether they are grounded in reality is another matter. Every case of "Zionist censorship" listed in the dbzer0 post boils down to one of their members calling to kill the other side or calling someone Zionist because they don't support killing the other side.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I'm just looking at what is here. Not the drama on a instance I barely notice.

[-] einkorn@feddit.org 10 points 4 days ago

So you are commenting on a post about a post you didn't even read?

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Don't be butthurt but I really don't care about the drama. Drama gets blocked here and I've seen plenty dodgy stuff from both instances. No saints on either side.