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It does not make you a Zionist on Lemmy. You are a Zionist in real life.
"Opposing Hamas makes you a Zionist", can you confirm that statement?
You said supporting Hamas is antisemitic. Why are you crawling back to the word Zionism now?
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This is a Zionist defense of Israel by conflating antisemitism with anti-Zionism.
I think they're German, conflating antisemitism with anti-zionism is their favorite excuse for why this genocide will finally be the good one.
Sadly, this meme remains ever relevant.
I see where you are going. Well, how anti Zionism and antisemitism are interconnected is subject to the current scientific debate and I won't start a fundamental discussion on this topic with you. What is important for me in the end is, that I am standing against the left that is openly sympathizing with the Hamas.
Zionism is, and has always been since the modern movement started in the 19th century, intrinsically antisemitic.
If you don't want to engage in a civil discussion, that's alright with me. But if you run out of arguments, just stop commenting?
Hamas is based and defending Palestine against genocidal Nazis.
Theres nothing civil about your genocide apologism
People that want a civil discussion on the merits of a philosophy whose base principle is at best ethnic cleansing don't deserve one.
You're like a white northerner demanding a civil discussion on the merits of slavery to a black person in the underground railroad.
Your position is just as disgusting and ludicrous.
The modern left-right discourse is just so confusing to me.
I've seen authoritarians, supporters of war crimes, and support for terrorism and cruelty, all claimed as leftist positions. I can't reconcile them with what I thought left-wing values were about.
I really think we need something with more dimensions to be popularized. The left-right system is just so loaded at this point. I personally can't identify with either side at all.
Your problem is that you're an idealist and you think ideas can be translated into practice just by having the correct ideas. Reality is not like that, fascists will play dirty and capitalists will play dirty and you can't win at their own game.
Yeah, I absolutely agree. I guess this is one of the reasons these "inter left" discussions are so exhausting.
(Alt-)"Left" != Left, and in fact shares far more in common with Right (aka: fascism).
Sure, if you're a politically illiterate centrist
For clarity, stethoscope theory is bullshit based on vibes. Communists support collectivizing production and distribution, and support states where the working classes are in charge, including their right to build up defensive mechanisms to protect the gains of socialism. This is entirely incompatible with the right-wing, who seek to maintain the dominion of capitalism.
Do you support Russia invading Ukraine because it epic pwns NATO?
or
Do you agree Russia is engaging in genocide of Ukrainians, ex. forced relocation of children?
And standing with the Zionists openly committing genocide
Yes, opposing the main resistance to zionism makes you a zionist. Glad we all understand each other.
Edit: not that you'll see this, I can see piefed.social dropping my replies to you because you have me (or maybe my instance) blocked.
You believe it is evil to resist Isreals imperialism. That's Zionism