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Just like declining birth rates in the US.
"We need to have more babies! Our population is declining!"
Well we could subsidize child care.
"Fuck you! Oh whatever shall we do?!"
Well we could provide housing programs for people who want to have children.
"Fuck you! Oh we need to think of something."
Oh, I know, we could subsidize fertility treatments for parents that want children but are having difficulties and can't afford 10s of thousands of uncovered medical expenses at once!
"Fuck you! Oh, woe is me, there's nothing anyone can do!"
Left out "we could just let more people move here"
But then ~~our society wouldn't be white dominated anymore!~~ our culture! Oh our culture! Demographics! Crime! Ahhhh! Be afraid!
This is Japan too. Very much so right now
th japanese stance on the rapid population decline is so fucked lol
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Definitely not that simple. Immigration is good, but you need the physical and social infrastructure to manage it.
Why would we need new infrastructure? We've had high immigration rates in the past, we could just do that again.
I don't realy see how it's more expensive to keep a few immigrants alive, who are willing to work and often already have good education, than raising and educating a child for years to come.
Think about it... housing, medical care, transportation. These need to keep up with population growth. If growth is achieved through immigration, then you need infrastructure to support more people. I'm in Canada, immigration has been seen as a positive thing for a long time, but there is a resource squeeze right now and increasing immigration is seen as adding fuel to the fire.
We are trying to address those issues, but it would have been a lot better to put infrastructure in place before aiming to increase the population size.
I actually agree for the sake of the Earth and humanity long term, if there is such a thing anymore.
I acknowledge though, that it will be very painful for humanity to adjust to downsizing, and in sociopolitical discourse, short medium term humanity is all most ever consider relevant. But yes, I agree with the long game position that humanity should strive to shrink and find equilibrium with our world.
It's sad to me that we live in a system where growth is the only goal. If the economy only grows by one percent its a crisis. Like what the fuck. I think you don't have to be a genius to see that infinite growth with finite resources is somehow impossible.
Infinite growth is the ideology of a cancer cell
No no no, don't you see? The growth MUST continue... Or else