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[-] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

I've come to the realization that mesh nodes are little more than a gateway drug into the world of ham radio. And for that I'm grateful.

It's not as good, and does everything worse than radio. The only real world use I have found is for when cellphone networks get overwhelmed at things like music festivals and large sports games. No one else's texts go through, but I can toss by buds a node to put in their back pocket and we can stay in touch.

our local mature club is building our local mesh network out now as an introduction to the ham world. And it's working. It's getting the younger kids and adults through the door. And from there, it's an easy thing to get them interested in more useful and fun forms of communication.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

I like the idea of a ham radio, but too voice shy to actually talk lol, so I don't bother with it.

[-] btsax@reddthat.com 6 points 4 months ago

JS8Call and FT8 are digital modes that don't require talking. Plenty of other things to do as well

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Now let me introduce you to APRS 😁

It’s pretty much the HAM equivalent of Meshtastic

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

FT8 is fun and doesn't require talking. CW too but you need to learn Morse code.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago

our local mature club

You meant senior citizens or content?

[-] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Why not both? 😉

Great typo, I'm leaving it.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago

I bring FRS radios (normal ol' walkie talkies) to the local Renaissance festival which has awful to no cell reception. It works great.

But yeah the barrier to even getting a technician license is too high. You get people that get excited and wanna do stuff and then they're told they can't. So things like meshtastic where they actually can do radio related things without a license are great.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

The question pool is so small you can memorize it :)

9/10 of the tech test is common sense or courtesy, and the bare minimum to make contact

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago

I get you, it's pretty easy, but I'm just saying trying to get somebody into a hobby, and then saying "actually you can't talk to people until you schedule a test" is a huge barrier.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

It's likely why the hobby is dying.

That said, ham equipment is generally able to be operated in a way that could interfere with police, fire, and air traffic. If you're operating bigger stuff, you can end up with RF exposure or even exposing your neighbors. It's all fun and games till you burn out Mrs. Johnsons pacemaker :)

I'd say they should make some safer HT's that don't step on emergency bands and do a scouts honor web test, but those bands are so poorly defined, and GMRS/FRS is already in that headspace.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

There's no restriction to purchase this stuff, so licensing will only stop accidents, not intentional bad actors. Even Baofengs can be put into a "ham mode" so they don't transmit out of band. I don't think we'd see it happen, but a license class under technician targeted at getting people legally able to use lower power handhelds super quickly would be nice. Even the technician question bank has questions about things that ultimately don't really matter for making sure people operate in band as they should. The metaphor I give folks is like if your driver's license test asked you questions about how to build engines. (And part of the reason we won't ever see that is because amateur radio licenses allow you to construct and use your own equipment, as opposed to things like FRS where the part itself has to be certified.)

[-] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I've been fooling around with Meshtastic for a couple years and haven't come up with a real world use for it yet, other than scenarios like you mentioned.

What would be really cool is if cell phone makers could incorporate a mesh into their phones as a local public channel when the tower goes out. It would probably just be used by drug dealers or something, but it's the only cool and functional idea I can come up with.

[-] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

If they can't charge an admittance fee or a per message fee, they won't implement it. It goes against their business model.

But we can dream.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Controlling home automation remotely without any internet access.

Tracking dogs, people or vehicles - again with no internet.

[-] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I don't see how you could get enough reliability to do either from any distance.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It all depends on the environment and the amount of nodes. I’m not exactly controlling Fort Knox here so 100% reliability isn’t a big point

It’s still cool to be at the store 2-3km away and get a notification that the fridge door is open, via a completely independent network 😀

I get the exact same notification via the internet, but it’s not as cool

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