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we need more users
(discuss.tchncs.de)
I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.
the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.
So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.
edit: source for the graph
The only way non tech users who comprises of 90% of the world will join Lemmy only if they have one instance which is baked in the app.
People don't understand and don't want to learn what instances are, how it works etc. Non tech users don't give a shit. All they need is an app with username and password which hopefully the remember.
Once you get an app like that and the UI is reddit like , then 100% will move.
People over-react because it's new to them, but it's not really that complicated. It's not like email never caught on because it's federated.
90% dont care or want to learn tech but need fancy gadgets. Basically they need a screen and apps on a device which has been marketed successfully.
I think it's really overstated how tech savvy you have to be. I don't do anything highly technical here. I signed up to a server, searched for things I was interested in, and subscribed to communities with the stuff I liked. I vote, comment, and post. There are great apps on the mainstream app stores. Yes, more than one thing is inherently a bit more complicated than one thing. But, lest we forget, one is also the loneliest number.
We should really be telling people how easy this shit is.
There's a reason nobody uses it because people like you are in every corner of Lemmy. Put it this way, if everybodys brain worked the same way then you'll be a billionaire like Donald J trump or elon musk.
There's a reason you're slaving a 9-5 and trying to push Lemmy to get a purpose in life.
No doubt, if the goal was to be some rich, worthless scumfuck I'd be doing different things. I'd probably have to spend my days trying to suck Trump Coins out of some grifter's dick. Or maybe I'd build a time machine to go back and make sure I popped out of a lady with a connection to an emerald mine. But... we all have our paths to walk. Mine is to toil endlessly in pursuit of purpose...
This conversation is actually a great example of complexity not mattering. You're on an Australian server, I'm on a Canadian server. We're replying to a post from a user on a third server to a community on a fourth server that people mistakenly think is American but is actually hosted in Germany. None of that matters because it just works. It's indistinguishable from posts and comments -- including you trying blame the whole thing on me -- at the same place. You can make it seem very complicated but all anyone has to do is type words in the little box and press the button to post it.
The way too many people think about the Fediverse right now is like thinking that you need to know every minor detail about how a call could make it from a cell phone in Australia to a cell phone in Canada. You don't need to know that to make a call. You don't need to know all the minutia about ActivityPub or federation to use the fediverse.
How do you know what they do?
Is there anything wrong with trying to promote Lemmy to begin with?
Mate prolly all 9-5 slaves here. I have studied 9-5 aka middle and poor class behaviour for 15-20 years and I know when they start pushing something because they need a purpose in life like they have achieved something. Nothing wrong with that , every poor and middle class should have a purpose to exist.
I agree completely, and I think this was shown definitively shown by Mastodon/Bluesky during the Twitter exodus.
While there is definitely something to be said for gradually assimilating new users into the customs of the network (I really like that Mastodon on the whole is a very respectful and inclusive space, with care paid to content warnings, alt text etc), on balance I would much rather have everyone on the fediverse - even if they brought all their Twitter-isms and Reddit-isms with them - but with strong moderation tools and protective spaces for those who want it. Then, we can win people over to those customs separately.
Many of the same apps that used to work on Reddit now work here on Lemmy, and some of the Lemmy apps now also work with PieFed.
Agreed on the sign-up but I think that too was mainly taken care of, back when lemmy.world was the default and over on Reddit people were sent direct links to the likes of e.g. feddit.org and discuss.online.
But there's barely any content here, especially outside of leftist politics and GNU/Linux, and the people are quite toxic. The issues may be insurmountable though I am placing my hopes into PieFed, getting away from the tankie issue and also offering significantly better moderation tools.
The other option is that anybody who recommends Lemmy, actually just recommends an instance. Make an account on examplelemmyserver.org and download the app XYZ should be the go-to recommendation. Not ”there are so many cool options”.
I don't have the data to refute this but it just seems nuts to me.
Surely there are apps that allow signups from the app itself and suggest a default instance.
Voyager does, it uses Lemmy.zip by default
This. Normal people can barely remember a domain name unless it’s also the name of the brand. So this platform is filtering for tech enthusiasts which leaves us with the same two-dimensional profile as every other platform.