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You all do realize that suburbs existed before the invention of the car right? American infrastructure is bad but it’s not irredeemable, the assumption that we can’t provide public transportation to these places because of a lack of resources is malthusian. And sure some places like the American Southwest and Florida are legitimately over human population carrying capacity due to climate change but in general the earth as a whole isn’t, and cities like Amsterdam are just as unsustainable as Miami since even though has one of those le epic reddit notjustbikes cityskylines approved infrastructure, both are below the sea level.

I think in general our message should be abolish the need to own the automobile, any measures meant to limit car use should target the rich before the poor. And that trains are good, and that a high speed train across the United States would be a rather popular project in the eyes of even the chuds. And by god stop calling for the suburbs to be razed, stop trying to be zoomer Robert Moses.

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[-] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I love the game but it is very much carbrained.

  1. Even if you make mass transit free and directly point-to-point, citizens will still opt to sit in traffic in their cars unless there is no road connecting their start and destination. Even then, they will often materialize a taxi to get to and from the mass transit hubs.

  2. There is no way to directly connect freight trains to industrial areas, you MUST have trucks take the goods from the (massive) freight station to the buildings.

  3. At least in the vanilla game, you can only have zoning around a road that allows cars. This is by far the biggest problem. You cannot zone on a bus-only road, tram tracks, or pedestrian path.

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

At least the sequel should let you make cars untenable by just not letting them have parking anywhere. It'll still probably have last-mile delivery trucks though.

[-] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The sequel doesn't even have bikes in vanilla. Also it has prison labor.

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