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[-] gaiussabinus@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

You are not free to do any of those things as the land is owned and you would be squatting. These people are removed by force. There is no choice except engage with society as there are no other options.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago

You’d have to buy your own land, of course.

But you could buy a tiny plot in the middle of nowhere, not hook up any utilities or have roads, and just live off your land if you wanted.

There are small parcels in the middle of noplace that nobody wants because there are no roads, utilities, or other services.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago

But you could buy a tiny plot in the middle of nowhere, not hook up any utilities or have roads, and just live off your land if you wanted.

Not legally mate.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

You literally can do that.

Why do people seem to think this is impossible?

What’s changed? Some parts of that life are sometimes illegal, but most people haven’t been against it like this.

What’s different?

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

For one there's zoning laws, most property do not allow any construction, so you're fucked for shelter. Likewise if you're on agriculutrally zoned land as most of those large rural parcel are you are legally required to use it for commercial farming. You can't just go and fell trees or hunt animals, so you'll be fucked for food. Most councils do not allow new constructions that don't meet rigid standards such as requirements for plumbing, so no more out-houses. You're often not allowed to stay on many properties for extended periods of time (i.e. more than a few weeks or month). And if the council ever finds or hears of you living in such a place, they'll send the police for you

Linking to a few mansions in the bush isn't the same thing as being able to just go fuck off to woop-woop for the rest of your days.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

Well, yeah. Regulations are a major part of society, and a major reason we tend to come together. Yet another reason libertarianism is misguided.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Regulations can be good, they can also be bad.

Such as regulations demanding housing meets a certain area size or standard plumping system means we are not allowed to live in affordable tiny homes with composting toilets.

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