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@Twongo Hitler got to power using democratic ways. He only got absolute majority by burning the Reichstag and blaming the left. Of course democracy works only if the population is educated and if people in USA say "oh trump was nice in the first term let's give him Senate Parliament and supreme Court" then it's an education problem. Not voting just helps Trump.
Hitler gained power because the working classes were organizing, such as in the KPD, and the capitalists needed a butcher to kill them and root out trade unionists, as well as to regain colonies lost to Germany in World War I. The inter-ally debts to the US were largely siphoned by Europe from Germany as repayment for losing the war, which strained the economy and forced the working classes into millitancy, with which the capitalist class responded by sending their attack dogs on ethnic minorities and labor organizers.
Trump took power because as imperialism is crumbling, the small business owners are feeling at risk of falling to the level of the working classes. This isn't due to "lack of education," it's easy to blame the right for being stupid when in reality they aren't, they are willingly and knowingly acting in their own interests against the people.
Voting could not have prevented fascists from taking power in either state, because the driving factor isn't people's ideas, but their material conditions.
@Cowbee Hitler got to power by voting. He did have a militia yes but he got to power through voting. Also through voting he gained the needed super majority. Trump also got to power through voting. He also has militant followers and both tried to coup before getting elected but in power they got through voting.
You're confusing the election, which is largely a formality and political theater in dictatorships of capital, with the forces at play that have already decided who will take power. History is not a series of snapshots, but a process that develops dialectically over time.
Hitler was not elected, Hindenburg was, and he conceded power to Hitler. Trump was elected, but that's not why he gained power. Both gained power because that was what the capitalist class wanted, and the elections are largely a formality beyond that. Even if, say, Hillary had won, these two candidates are more similar than different, both were acceptable by capitalists, one merely preferred by some capitalists over the other.
Fascism rises when the spoils of imperialism dry up and reaction is brought homeward. It isn't a political preference, but driven economically, and as such is predictable. It has only ever been stopped through force, like when the Red Army defeated the Nazis in World War II.