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I’ve been thinking a lot recently about PeerTube, Loops, Bandwagon, and other platforms in the Fediverse that are geared around artists. I might get flamed for this, and you’re welcome to disagree, but I think the network is in dire need of having support for commerce.

Not “Big Capitalism” commerce, but the ability for people to buy and sell things, support projects, and commission their favorite creators to keep making more stuff.

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[-] Olap@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Keep it away is my strong advice. Having to deal with banks will mean having to deal with regulations. Having to deal with crypto means having to deal with crytpo bros. Having to deal with paywalls is a barrier to entry

The internet was a better place without money touching everything!

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago

I don't have strong feelings either way, but money does touch everything, overtly or not, when it comes to civilisation. Time spent volunteering on Fediverse projects is effectively money spent (at least to some degree), and instances cost time & fees to maintain.

But I guess to argue against myself-- you have to think that without some kind of ongoing responsible oversight, then the worst aspects of capitalism might predictably find a way to screw it all up if left to its own devices. Then again, maybe the scale involved makes that less likely. *shrug*

[-] Olap@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I get it. Volunteers' time should be valued. But, there is more to valuing than money is my counter: authority, respect, community engagement, and a fraternal/paternal element

I salute all mods. And I pay for admins

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

I mean, you're kind of lifting my point in to a broader area that I wasn't speaking to at the time.

Of course I agree with all that you said. But I was talking strictly in the context of OP's framework.

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

Having to deal with crypto means having to deal with crytpo bros

The internet was also a better place when people using it were more open minded

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago
[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

Your argument sounds like "pc are bads because of virus"

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago

If 99.9% of PCs were solely made to steal your credit card info, then yes.

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Most of crypto volume is done on bitcoin and ethereum network which are built to be less scammy than a bank. You could indeed argue that 99.9% of existing cryptocurrencies are scam because there are thousand existing projects that imitates bitcoin, similarly one could argue that 99.9% iphones copies are a scam

[-] amino 1 points 1 day ago

lmao, the blockchain that popularized NFTs is less scammy than a bank? touch grass

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Bitcoin and ethereum blockchains are built to be open, public and decentralized. The difference between these and a bank could be compared to the difference between reddit and lemmy. Is reddit a scam? Perhaps not on a large scale but it has all the potential to become a scam once its executives decide to do so. Lemmy is not owned by a single person which makes it way more harder to "control".

[-] amino 1 points 2 hours ago

nobody said Ethereum had to be controlled by the state but when most of the influential figures who keep it running, including its creators participated in inflating the NFT ponzi scheme you can't say it isn't a scam because it's "decentralized". BTC and ETH don't meet any definition of decentralization, that's why DAOs failed

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Bitcoin and Ethereum only have liquidity in the market because scammers use it for their pig butchering etc. scams. And all the major exchanges are complicit in that. Many Banks are scammy, yes, but not that scammy by a long shot. Sorry to burst your bubble 🤷

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy?tab=readme-ov-file#crypto

You can support lemmy by donating cryptocurrencies, they are not only used by scammers.

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