I get this is a meme, but it is trying to talk about something serious. It's worth saying that fatalist arguments are actually beneficial to liberalism and capitalism. Capitalism is not going to kill us all, humans are exceptionally durable. Capitalism intends to kill us all though, whether through the dehumanization it requires to function or its inability to contend with the material limitations of reality. Climate change mitigation is a discussion around minimising the harm this system causes while it dies, and liberals often subscribe to fatalist narratives because they dont truly imagine a world that is not capitalist as one worth living in.
No, Capitalism will not make the Earth uninhabitable. It will kill very many things the longer it is part of our world, but you are subscribing to a liberal fatalist narrative that constructs the future as definitively destroyed because it does not resemble the world we live in. It's doomer shit that is painfully white.
How you got, "we don't need to end capitalism" I have no responsibility for. If I say it isnt infinitely powerful but must end as quickly as possible, what exactly do you think I'm advocating for?
You're right, capitalism won't make the Earth completely uninhabitable. Many mass extinction events have occurred in our planet's past, and life has always eventually recovered (obviously).
However, capitalism will destroy our planet's ability to sustain our society, and eventually our species, and it is doing so at an alarming rate. To disagree, at this point, is to ignore an amout of scientific evidence so substantial, it amounts similarly to denying the Earth is round.
My god, three of you who won't read. I'm just going to block you after this because this is getting silly.
Yes, I said that at least five times throughout this thread. My exact criticism is that liberals subscribe to fatalist narratives because they cannot or will not imagine an alternative to this society. Nowhere anywhere in this thread did I suggest climate change is not destructive.
The amount of you who cannot seperate these ideas is itself proof of what my comment argues. It is literally incomprehensible to you to accept climate change's existence as well as the reality of living in a world that will be changed because of it. Fatalist narratives appropriate scientific evidence in the service of reproducing the social conditions that have facilitated climate change.
A world less livable is one worth living in, but to those of you who would rather die than change, there is no such thing as a less livable world, just the destruction of this one.
Fuck's sake with the liberals on this site. Fucking develop some humility before you assume you know everything.
I can read just fine. You're asserting that climate change should be embraced because we'll learn to "live with it." I'm pointing out that you're ignoring a giant mountain of evidence that says the best case scenario is that ten percent of our species survives. So, if we're understanding each other correctly, ninety percent of humans dying is the "new normal" you're saying we should be cool with, and I'm not cool with that.
I just realized you're from .ml. Please block me, I can't stand you assholes anyway.
I get this is a meme, but it is trying to talk about something serious. It's worth saying that fatalist arguments are actually beneficial to liberalism and capitalism. Capitalism is not going to kill us all, humans are exceptionally durable. Capitalism intends to kill us all though, whether through the dehumanization it requires to function or its inability to contend with the material limitations of reality. Climate change mitigation is a discussion around minimising the harm this system causes while it dies, and liberals often subscribe to fatalist narratives because they dont truly imagine a world that is not capitalist as one worth living in.
Capitalism will make the earth uninhabitable. That will kill us all. If you care about the future, you are thinking about how to murder an oligarch.
Any other kind of 'planning' for the future is delusional clown shit. Just chill the fuck out and do unreasonable amounts of drugs.
No, Capitalism will not make the Earth uninhabitable. It will kill very many things the longer it is part of our world, but you are subscribing to a liberal fatalist narrative that constructs the future as definitively destroyed because it does not resemble the world we live in. It's doomer shit that is painfully white.
How you got, "we don't need to end capitalism" I have no responsibility for. If I say it isnt infinitely powerful but must end as quickly as possible, what exactly do you think I'm advocating for?
You're right, capitalism won't make the Earth completely uninhabitable. Many mass extinction events have occurred in our planet's past, and life has always eventually recovered (obviously).
However, capitalism will destroy our planet's ability to sustain our society, and eventually our species, and it is doing so at an alarming rate. To disagree, at this point, is to ignore an amout of scientific evidence so substantial, it amounts similarly to denying the Earth is round.
My god, three of you who won't read. I'm just going to block you after this because this is getting silly.
Yes, I said that at least five times throughout this thread. My exact criticism is that liberals subscribe to fatalist narratives because they cannot or will not imagine an alternative to this society. Nowhere anywhere in this thread did I suggest climate change is not destructive.
The amount of you who cannot seperate these ideas is itself proof of what my comment argues. It is literally incomprehensible to you to accept climate change's existence as well as the reality of living in a world that will be changed because of it. Fatalist narratives appropriate scientific evidence in the service of reproducing the social conditions that have facilitated climate change.
A world less livable is one worth living in, but to those of you who would rather die than change, there is no such thing as a less livable world, just the destruction of this one.
Fuck's sake with the liberals on this site. Fucking develop some humility before you assume you know everything.
I can read just fine. You're asserting that climate change should be embraced because we'll learn to "live with it." I'm pointing out that you're ignoring a giant mountain of evidence that says the best case scenario is that ten percent of our species survives. So, if we're understanding each other correctly, ninety percent of humans dying is the "new normal" you're saying we should be cool with, and I'm not cool with that.
I just realized you're from .ml. Please block me, I can't stand you assholes anyway.