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There's been so many of these in recent years.
Seats being outlawed from electric scooters in a lot of countries, suggesting it's somehow safer to drive standing up trying to maintain your own balance than sitting down. I can guarantee you there have been deaths that could have been spared because of this. - Wait, I'm actually wrong - You can use seats, they just have to be used on the much more dangerous self-balancing unicycle ones.
Ebikes that are capped at 25km/h but aren't legal because they don't have pedals even though pedal bycicles can easily go faster, have slower reaction time when the byciclist has to build up speed again after a full stop, and a byciclist is generally just more exhausted from pedaling while also having to be aware of the road.
A lot of countries go after car cameras because GDPR and "recording public spaces", all the while not just permitting companies like Tesla to have them, but even shamelessly subpoena the evidence because it literally could have recorded crimes not related to it thus making their rationale in all other cases fall apart.
Prohibiting phones actually make sense because of how people abuse the privilege, but replacing all controls with a touch screen with absolutely no tactile sense or feedback in a way that people literally have to look away from the road instead of being able to hold the phone while looking at the road could is way worse. And because these are a lot of the controls for the car itself, people won't just be able to ignore it.
It all starts making a lot more sense when you begin to realize a lot of it is to protect traditional/big money transportation markets and industries. Laws on ebikes and escooters add bureacracy that safeguards existing stocks and puts a brake on innovations that were set to come out. It it's an innovation like solar panels on a car or bus, most of the consumer level stuff has gone bankrupt after it crashed right into the bureaucratic wall protecting traditional transportation markets and industries, but when it comes to features that benefit them due to cost savings and features that they can derive a premium on as a luxury because they realize the demand is there, their lobbyists help fast track them all through the red tape.
Car manufacturers getting most if not all of their supplies from China? A-ok. Consumers getting their cars from China? Unacceptable, it will break our economy, because apparently we have no problem allowing it to depend on private companies.
If you put a seat on a scooter, it's no longer a scooter, you've fundamentally changed what the vehicle is.
Same with Ebikes with throttles, if you don't need to pedal, it's fundamentally not a bicycle anymore.
That's not even a moped without pedals, it's a motorcycle.
Also, get off the sidewalk with that murder machine.
It depends where you are, but the definition of a moped is two wheels, 50cc or less, 2kw or less, and can't go faster than 50kmh where I live. Pedals aren't required at all.
You're right, local laws are all over the place. I was just thinking of my city.
Do you intentionally rage bait with subjective assessments? Do you even care about how many links I could provide that would disagree with you? The industry might love you, but the reality still is what it is, which is why you haven't argued against any of the points I made.
To be fair, I don't think there is any other way you could have made a counterargument than to be pedantic and saying a vehicle that is effectively more dangerous than the other should be legal over it purely due to grammar Nazi polysemy blind logic. Car touchscreen controls also aren't phones, you are right.