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Wanna push everyone to the dark web? This is how you do it. People will just become obsessed with covering their tracks. You'll have to rip open countless companies and organizations to get this to work. Fuck 'em. Prying eyes can eat shit and die.
Simply running away is not a winning move in the long run. You risk losing people along each ever more complex method as the technical debt grows greater and greater. And you cannot exhaust the system backed by trillions of dollars.
The only solution comes from challenging the states authority to do so in the first place.
No, don't challenge the state. The state is too weak as is.
Challenge the billionaires who buy our government instead.
Decouple billionaires from politics.
Give the government teeth and an appetite to regularly and often target billionaires.
You might be exaggerating people's technical knowledge, desire to increase their technical knowledge, and / or their desire to effect change.
TOR is easy enough to set up that if you know how to install a program on your computer and run it, you're good to go. It's not the ideal way to run TOR, and is still somewhat insecure, but can be done in a few clicks.
Back in the early 00's, the amount of people learning how to download pirated music safely, arrange and burn a CD with it skyrocketed. Fast forward a few years and people with no real computer skills were learning how to rip and burn DVDs.
I wouldn't underestimate the potential of people with motivation to circumvent an oppressive system.
On the flip side what choice will they have after sony's AI gets them cut off by claiming rights to the pictures of thier own kids on facebook. They will need lots of tech to get back online. And we know there are people who will find a way to make it dead simple.
… or their disposable energy after working 10h and caring for the kids.
Running i2p or Tor isn't that challenging and demand drives innovation. I could see one-click solutions taking off in a few months if people were willing to pay a few bucks a month to download basically anything the dark web can offer.
Exactly this. Streaming was a thing long time before Netflix, but they made it so damn easy.
Now Netflix fucked it, and streaming piracy became so damn easy that more people did it than before.
If they close down piracy streaming/download, guess what. Dark web access, or i2p maybe, will be so damn easy.
People are willing to do it, if there's no service that's worth it's money.
Piracy is a service issue. Most of us would pay, if the service is good enough.